Is the Amazon Kindle a computer
Jan 20, 2010 | 8:42 am
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Jan 20, 2010 | 10:18 am
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Could be that the view of the Kindle was clear enough. As a rule, they are treated just like laptops and should be removed from the bag. They are very easy to spot.
To a previous post, laptops left in the nylon sleeves are good to go as long as there is nothing else in the sleeve. When you have cables, flashdrives, whatever else in the sleeve, that's where you run into a problem.
To a previous post, laptops left in the nylon sleeves are good to go as long as there is nothing else in the sleeve. When you have cables, flashdrives, whatever else in the sleeve, that's where you run into a problem.
I've had EWR TSOs demand that I take out a Nintendo DSI and a portable iPod player also even though the rules said that they don't need to come out of the bag. Consistent inconsistency should not apply to these simple rules.
Jan 20, 2010 | 10:37 am
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Uh, no, not all the time. The problem is the TSOs who aren't trained properly and/or ignore their training and/or on a power trip. At EWR of all places at Thanksgiving, I had my laptop in a laptop sleeve by itself in a bin and was required by the TSO to take it out of the sleeve. He said I was wrong when I advised that the rules allow laptops in sleeves. And guess what? He WAS the TRAINER. This was a training lane.
Jan 20, 2010 | 10:53 am
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This is it exactly -- it all depends on the TSA agent at the time. I have the large Kindle ( Kindle DX) and had no problem with the first several trips, but in Montgomery Ala, was told it must be treated like a computer etc. Now, simply to avoid lengthening my time with these people, I take it out of its sleeve and put it in the same bin as everything else -- my coat, my liquids bag, etc. Since then -- no problems ,and what is important to me -- no re-runs of luggage to check (again!) what they already know it is, no hand searches, etc. BTW - the agent in Montgomery said it is the size of the electronic device that is the issue for them -- so perhaps the small Kindle wouldn't have raised the threshold. How true that explanation was, however, is debatable, I know.
Jan 20, 2010 | 11:20 am
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Jan 20, 2010 | 7:53 pm
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I have flown with mine exactly once, returning home after receiving it for Christmas. I did not remove it initially. At JFK, the screener asked me if I had a computer, I said I had a Kindle, had to clarify electronic book, and he made me take it out and re-screen.
Jan 20, 2010 | 10:32 pm
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The original computers were humans. Yes, they were really slow, but they were employed as computers. There's a reason m-w.com says the word dates from 1646.
A Kindle is a computer. Watches (even mechanical ones), phones, MP3 players, pacemakers, aircraft, AVOD, etc., all either are or contain computers.
A Kindle is a computer. Watches (even mechanical ones), phones, MP3 players, pacemakers, aircraft, AVOD, etc., all either are or contain computers.
Jan 20, 2010 | 10:39 pm
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The original computers were humans. Yes, they were really slow, but they were employed as computers. There's a reason m-w.com says the word dates from 1646.
A Kindle is a computer. Watches (even mechanical ones), phones, MP3 players, pacemakers, aircraft, AVOD, etc., all either are or contain computers.
A Kindle is a computer. Watches (even mechanical ones), phones, MP3 players, pacemakers, aircraft, AVOD, etc., all either are or contain computers.
But TSA is paralyzed with confusion over whether 3 is, or is not, 3.4, by fluid ounces vs avoirdupois ounces, by whether ice is a "frozen liquid" or some other state of matter, and by 8-year-olds who "aren't on the list" but must be treated as if they were. Let's not confuse them any more, shall we?
Jan 20, 2010 | 10:45 pm
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I just purchased an Amazon Kindle. In many ways it is a computer. Does that mean that security will require it to be taken out of the carryon and its sleeve and put through the xray machine. I also carry a notebook computer so that means a bin for the shoes another for the computer and another for the Kindle. Does anybody have any experience taking a Kindle through security.