Community
Wiki Posts
Search

Are the Elderly screened more often?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Mar 26, 2008 | 12:45 pm
  #1  
Original Poster
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: IAD
Programs: United 0, HH Gold
Posts: 2,827
Are the Elderly screened more often?

I feel so bad for old people who travel. It's been my observation that older people always seem to be placed in line for additional screening. I think it has to do with their lack of familiarity with the process, but I'm not sure.

It's now a running joke, though, with my colleagues and I to guess whether the elderly person in line will get the extra screening -- and it sure seems like he or she does most of the time.

In fact, whenever I pass through security, I turn around and survey the scene ... and there's always an elderly person getting padded down.

I'm not going to make judgements on whether TSA is wasting their efforts on a segment of the population that is unlikely to be a terrorist, but I was wondering if anyone else has made this observation. Thanks!
Uniter is offline  
Old Mar 26, 2008 | 12:54 pm
  #2  
FlyerTalk Evangelist
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Newport Beach, California, USA
Posts: 36,062
I would suspect it's a combination of low travel frequency resulting in SSSS and unfamiliarity resulting in alarming the WTMD. I've not noticed it, myself, but I'll make a point of looking when I fly tomorrow.
PTravel is offline  
Old Mar 26, 2008 | 1:04 pm
  #3  
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Salish Sea
Programs: DL,AC,HH,PC
Posts: 8,972
Originally Posted by Uniter
I'm not going to make judgements on whether TSA is wasting their efforts on a segment of the population that is unlikely to be a terrorist...
Or is unlikely to protest or complain at the treatment.
Wally Bird is offline  
Old Mar 26, 2008 | 1:25 pm
  #4  
15 Years on Site
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Programs: DL, WN, US, Avis, AA
Posts: 663
Older passengers are more likely to have pins, hip replacements, knee replacements, etc. all of which will trigger a grope session.
T-the-B is offline  
Old Mar 26, 2008 | 1:27 pm
  #5  
Cee
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 562
Originally Posted by PTravel
I would suspect it's a combination of low travel frequency resulting in SSSS and unfamiliarity resulting in alarming the WTMD. I've not noticed it, myself, but I'll make a point of looking when I fly tomorrow.
Partially correct. Though elderly people are not singled out for extra screening, it is more common with them. You are partially correct in your assertion that it is due to the infrequency of travel, infrequency not resulting in SSSS, but more from the lack of understanding what will set off the metal detector. Also, they are more likely to have metal implants that set off the metal detector. They may have more medical issues that make it hard for them to remove their shoes, or have a pace maker; thus resulting in extra screening. Lastly, a lot of them don't keep their I.D's current, also resulting in additional screening.

Last edited by Cee; Mar 26, 2008 at 6:27 pm
Cee is offline  
Old Mar 26, 2008 | 1:45 pm
  #6  
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Salish Sea
Programs: DL,AC,HH,PC
Posts: 8,972
Originally Posted by Cee
Lastly, a lot of them don't keep their I.D's current, also resulting in additional screening.
Ding, ding. The winning entry @:-)
Wally Bird is offline  
Old Mar 26, 2008 | 2:16 pm
  #7  
FlyerTalk Evangelist
20 Years on Site
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: San Francisco
Programs: AA 3mm Plat
Posts: 10,068
My mother was SSSSSSSed every time she came and every time she left here (home YVR, SFO to visit). Finally it wore her out and she refuses to fly anymore.

I used to see the same @#$%& screener make her stand with her arms up for way too long. Many older people have shoulder problems. The same idiot would wand, and wand and wand and wand the artificial hip joint. Then wand it some more.

She was in her late 70's when she finally threw in the towel on flying ... specifically because of the screening process.
Teacher49 is offline  
Old Mar 26, 2008 | 2:24 pm
  #8  
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 117
Nope

Originally Posted by Wally Bird
Ding, ding. The winning entry @:-)

I'm pretty sure that more old people get the extra screening because of hip/knee replacements or pace makers, not because of the SSSS of expired ID.
Haveaniceday is offline  
Old Mar 26, 2008 | 3:20 pm
  #9  
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Salish Sea
Programs: DL,AC,HH,PC
Posts: 8,972
on second thoughts...NEVER MIND
Wally Bird is offline  
Old Mar 26, 2008 | 7:38 pm
  #10  
FlyerTalk Evangelist
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: IAH
Programs: La Ministreuse de Surréalisme, CO Plat, MR Plat, SPG Plat
Posts: 11,358
My dad had hip replacement and thus gets secondary every time. He also has alzheimers so he can't understand why!
baglady is offline  
Old Mar 26, 2008 | 7:48 pm
  #11  
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Programs: AA Platinum Hilton Gold
Posts: 50
My husband and I could both be considered "elderly", though we are frequent flyers (AA Platinum) and Flyer Talk readers--so we can't be said to be clueless travelers. I have never been singled out, and neither had my husband until he had a knee replacement. Now he gets the full pat-down and security going over every time. With joint replacement becoming more commonplace, I wouldn't be surprised if that's the main reason for singling out the elderly for added security checks. Too bad there's not some sort of joint replacement ID card that could be issued by hospitals so that all this security could be avoided.
pfc870 is offline  
Old Mar 26, 2008 | 7:59 pm
  #12  
FlyerTalk Evangelist
10 Countries Visited
All eyes on you!
20 Years on Site
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: NRT
Programs: Tokyo Monorail Diamond-Encrusted-Platinum
Posts: 10,047
Originally Posted by pfc870
Too bad there's not some sort of joint replacement ID card that could be issued by hospitals so that all this security could be avoided.
Well, there are ID cards for people with pacemakers.
I believe that they can show the card if they wish to opt for a groping as an alternative to walking through the deceptor.
But nobody gets to bypass security.
jib71 is offline  
Old Mar 26, 2008 | 8:53 pm
  #13  
15 Years on Site
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: IAD/DCA/BWI
Programs: UA 1K MM, Marriott LT Plat., Hilton Diamond, Hertz Pres
Posts: 143
Pacemakers, bone replacements, etc. shouldn't affect the SSSS likelihood as that is determined before the security line.

Saw two elderly pax with SSSS on UA44 today, the LAX-IAD redeye.

This is no doubt a simplification, but elderly pax are almost by definition not flying for business and are probably less likely to have FF accounts. This makes them unique/discrete flyers in the computer records, raising a flag and making them more likely for SSSS..
HKBelonger is offline  
Old Mar 26, 2008 | 9:10 pm
  #14  
Cee
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 562
Originally Posted by jib71
Well, there are ID cards for people with pacemakers.
I believe that they can show the card if they wish to opt for a groping as an alternative to walking through the deceptor.
But nobody gets to bypass security.
They do have cards for implants too, but they are not a "get out of jail free" card. You are right, nobody gets to bypass security.

Originally Posted by HKBelonger
This is no doubt a simplification, but elderly pax are almost by definition not flying for business and are probably less likely to have FF accounts. This makes them unique/discrete flyers in the computer records, raising a flag and making them more likely for SSSS..
I didn't know that not being a FF was a criteria for designating SSSS.
Cee is offline  
Old Mar 27, 2008 | 7:19 am
  #15  
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 4,531
My mom lives in Florida (land of the snowbirds). Her friends are less likely to buy round trip tickets. They often buy one-way because they are unsure of their return date, or perhaps they will drive a car back north, etc. As such, this increases their likelihood. In addition, many are naive to frequent flyer programs, or fly tickets on different carriers. Both of these factors play into SSSS. Add expired IDs, metal replacements, and less familiarity, and you have the very sad scene of these folks being groped for this foolishness.
19103_aa is offline  


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

This site is owned, operated, and maintained by MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Designated trademarks are the property of their respective owners.