What does this picture have to do with BDO's?
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If you mouseover the picture, it reads "Photo of behavior detection being used at an aiprort." However, I don't see any BDO's? What's the point of the picture?
If you mouseover the picture, it reads "Photo of behavior detection being used at an aiprort." However, I don't see any BDO's? What's the point of the picture?
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And this is front page news for the TSA?
He wasn't arrested for the multiple IDs.
And of course, the catch-all: Disorderly conduct.
How does secondary screening work at MIA? If he bolted at the ID check, then I don't see how or why his bag was on the x-ray belt (except to legally show that he had started the screening process and could not revoke consent at that point). If it was after the WTMD he bolted, then that is a different story.
Beydoun was questioned and then arrested on charges of resisting arrest without violence and disorderly conduct and found to be carrying multiple IDs in several names
And of course, the catch-all: Disorderly conduct.How does secondary screening work at MIA? If he bolted at the ID check, then I don't see how or why his bag was on the x-ray belt (except to legally show that he had started the screening process and could not revoke consent at that point). If it was after the WTMD he bolted, then that is a different story.
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"Beydoun was questioned and then arrested on charges of resisting arrest without violence and disorderly conduct and found to be carrying multiple IDs in several names
"resisting arrest without violence"?? that's a new one on me. I guess that covers things like asking "are you arresting me? on what grounds?"
"resisting arrest without violence"?? that's a new one on me. I guess that covers things like asking "are you arresting me? on what grounds?"
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"Beydoun was questioned and then arrested on charges of resisting arrest without violence and disorderly conduct and found to be carrying multiple IDs in several names
"resisting arrest without violence"?? that's a new one on me. I guess that covers things like asking "are you arresting me? on what grounds?"
"resisting arrest without violence"?? that's a new one on me. I guess that covers things like asking "are you arresting me? on what grounds?"
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Better to condition the sheep now, rather than later.
Blind squirrel? Since when is the TSA's job to find someone with multiple IDs?
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Of course it is. Because if the put out enough propaganda, then it justifies whining if there is ever the threat of a budget cut or congressional oversight (just look at the whining that Mike McConnell & the administration is doing over wiretaps).
Better to condition the sheep now, rather than later.
Blind squirrel? Since when is the TSA's job to find someone with multiple IDs?
Better to condition the sheep now, rather than later.
Blind squirrel? Since when is the TSA's job to find someone with multiple IDs?
I have been involved with plenty of BDO screening that have turn into arrests for one reason or another and the media hasn't covered it. If they wanted it to be propaganda, they would put out more. Besides, there is more to this case than just multiple IDs. Maybe once the investigation and court hearing are finished, they will do a follow-up article or the media will cover it.
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I have been involved with plenty of BDO screening that have turn into arrests for one reason or another and the media hasn't covered it. If they wanted it to be propaganda, they would put out more. Besides, there is more to this case than just multiple IDs. Maybe once the investigation and court hearing are finished, they will do a follow-up article or the media will cover it.
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I have been involved with plenty of BDO screening that have turn into arrests for one reason or another and the media hasn't covered it. If they wanted it to be propaganda, they would put out more. Besides, there is more to this case than just multiple IDs. Maybe once the investigation and court hearing are finished, they will do a follow-up article or the media will cover it.
Besides, there is more to this case than just multiple IDs. Maybe once the investigation and court hearing are finished, they will do a follow-up article or the media will cover it.
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I have been involved with plenty of BDO screening that have turn into arrests for one reason or another and the media hasn't covered it. If they wanted it to be propaganda, they would put out more. Besides, there is more to this case than just multiple IDs. Maybe once the investigation and court hearing are finished, they will do a follow-up article or the media will cover it.
Does any of what you allude to have to do with aviation security? Seriously, does it? Did you your brave and heroic brethren find a pipe bomb, liquid explosives or something that could have brought down the plane he was going to ride on?
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I wasn't attempting to "flatter" myself. I was just trying to make a point that sometimes there is more to a given situation than what the TSA or the media puts out. So, did any of your "pretty high classification level" reports go into any detail about this event?
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A serious question....and you don't have to blow your precious SSI here to answer.
Does any of what you allude to have to do with aviation security? Seriously, does it? Did you your brave and heroic brethren find a pipe bomb, liquid explosives or something that could have brought down the plane he was going to ride on?
Does any of what you allude to have to do with aviation security? Seriously, does it? Did you your brave and heroic brethren find a pipe bomb, liquid explosives or something that could have brought down the plane he was going to ride on?
Well, I'm not sure how to answer that. You seem to base your concern off of whether or not someone is an immediate threat. What about future intent? Dry - runs? What about the people who mule money/drugs to fund terrorism? Should we not be concern with any of these activities?
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Does any of it have to do with aviation security?
Well, I'm not sure how to answer that. You seem to base your concern off of whether or not someone is an immediate threat. What about future intent? Dry - runs? What about the people who mule money/drugs to fund terrorism? Should we not be concern with any of these activities?
Well, I'm not sure how to answer that. You seem to base your concern off of whether or not someone is an immediate threat. What about future intent? Dry - runs? What about the people who mule money/drugs to fund terrorism? Should we not be concern with any of these activities?
I'll take your reply as your answer being "no."
I ask because I'm tired of the TSA making these shameless chest-beatings about things that do not carry a direct threat to the aircraft the person was about to board, all at a time when they can't master what is supposed to be its core competency.
We're told by your fearless leader about the dire need to secure aircraft through banning shampoo, bottles of water and challenging IDs. All of these extra things you do distract you from finding true threats to security.
The "well, he could be a criminal" doesn't hold water. ANYONE could be that, including you and your co-workers. Should you be arrested?
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Does any of it have to do with aviation security?
Well, I'm not sure how to answer that. You seem to base your concern off of whether or not someone is an immediate threat. What about future intent? Dry - runs? What about the people who mule money/drugs to fund terrorism? Should we not be concern with any of these activities?
Well, I'm not sure how to answer that. You seem to base your concern off of whether or not someone is an immediate threat. What about future intent? Dry - runs? What about the people who mule money/drugs to fund terrorism? Should we not be concern with any of these activities?
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C'mon, I specifically asked whether that person was an immediate threat to the safety of the aircraft he was about to board.
I'll take your reply as your answer being "no."
I ask because I'm tired of the TSA making these shameless chest-beatings about things that do not carry a direct threat to the aircraft the person was about to board, all at a time when they can't master what is supposed to be its core competency.
We're told by your fearless leader about the dire need to secure aircraft through banning shampoo, bottles of water and challenging IDs. All of these extra things you do distract you from finding true threats to security.
The "well, he could be a criminal" doesn't hold water. ANYONE could be that, including you and your co-workers. Should you be arrested?
I'll take your reply as your answer being "no."
I ask because I'm tired of the TSA making these shameless chest-beatings about things that do not carry a direct threat to the aircraft the person was about to board, all at a time when they can't master what is supposed to be its core competency.
We're told by your fearless leader about the dire need to secure aircraft through banning shampoo, bottles of water and challenging IDs. All of these extra things you do distract you from finding true threats to security.
The "well, he could be a criminal" doesn't hold water. ANYONE could be that, including you and your co-workers. Should you be arrested?
He is a known criminal.

