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Originally Posted by L-1011
(Post 9239440)
Well, yeah! Does the term "Green Card" ring any bells? And that question comes from a Federal "Officer" who supposedly has been trained in recognizing different Government issued IDs. Sheesh!
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Well, given this, it seems that the TSA ought to change the language on their web site to specify what forms of ID are acceptable. It would appear that the double-secret policy is different than:
and government-issued photo ID available But it's not surprising that (once again) internal policy differs from published policy. |
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Originally Posted by The Stainless Steel Rat
(Post 9238311)
Just a note:
As many of you know, we (TSA) have started using the UV lights at basically all airports now. Along with that, we've received some training in acceptable documentation. They're still not clear on a lot of things, which I don't like, but here's what it seems to boil down to: US Driver's License or State ID card US Passport US Federal Government ID card Canadian drivers license (since passport is not required to travel over the border) Foreign country passport (certain "suspect" countries could require additional screening) We've been told not to accept foreign country's driver's licenses as a primary form of ID, mostly because of the vast number of them, and the difficulty of determining if it's valid, or the security of the process which goes into obtaining the ID. Now, whether it should be our job to check IDs or not, is a discussion for a different thread, but currently we are and we're just doing our best to try and make sure we check for valid, secure IDs. As for the policy and list itself, :td: :td: :td: The sign at the checkpoint says "government issued photo ID." Nothing about frowning on certain governments or certain cards. IMO my large-state-University ID card is government issued ID, though I haven't tried to use it (yet) at a checkpoint. If your bosses want to have stricter requirements to avoid haraSSSSment, they should and must publish them. Anything less is completely unacceptable. |
Originally Posted by soitgoes
(Post 9239451)
Be nice...I think SSR was just saying that was the category where green cards fit on the list that had been provided.
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Originally Posted by The Stainless Steel Rat
(Post 9238311)
We've been told not to accept foreign country's driver's licenses as a primary form of ID, mostly because of the vast number of them, and the difficulty of determining if it's valid, or the security of the process which goes into obtaining the ID.
This have changed a bit lately with the new passports but earlier they wre considered not safe.
Originally Posted by The Stainless Steel Rat
(Post 9238311)
Now, whether it should be our job to check IDs or not, is a discussion for a different thread, but currently we are and we're just doing our best to try and make sure we check for valid, secure IDs.
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Originally Posted by Fredrik74
(Post 9239980)
The last time I flew in the US the passport checker looked at me and my foreign passport like he had found someone from al-Qaida. Do you receive additional training to look at foreigners like that or does it come naturally from the lack of knowledge of the world outside US borders?
At least they accepted yours. Mine was rejected as a non-valid ID. |
Originally Posted by The Stainless Steel Rat
(Post 9238311)
Foreign country passport (certain "suspect" countries could require additional screening)
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Originally Posted by L-1011
(Post 9239930)
I don't think so. OP wrote "US Federal Government ID Cards". There would not be a need for a list of some Government-issued ID card just to clump all the rest of them in to a separate category. But, OTH, this is TSA so what can we expect.
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Originally Posted by studentff
(Post 9239859)
As for the policy and list itself, :td: :td: :td: The sign at the checkpoint says "government issued photo ID." Nothing about frowning on certain governments or certain cards. IMO my large-state-University ID card is government issued ID, though I haven't tried to use it (yet) at a checkpoint.
If your bosses want to have stricter requirements to avoid haraSSSSment, they should and must publish them. Anything less is completely unacceptable. I do know that they don't want anything less than state or federally-issued ID, which means that school IDs won't cut it. Because they are issued by the school, and not by the state/federal government. Also, concealed weapons permits aren't accepted. I wondered about this, since they are often harder to get than a State ID card. But apparently that is an issue of how reliable the picture on the ID card is, as some localities will just have you mail in a photograph and other information to get your card. Obviously, this isn't a very secure way to validate ID. |
Obviously, this isn't a very secure way to validate ID. Wow, I feel really safe knowing the TSA morons are keeping us from "false ID" terrorists....get a life. If there "..isn't a very secure way to validate ID" then give it up...go eat donuts. Idiots and Morons. |
Originally Posted by The Stainless Steel Rat
(Post 9242052)
I do know that they don't want anything less than state or federally-issued ID, which means that school IDs won't cut it. Because they are issued by the school, and not by the state/federal government.
In addition, less than a month ago, the TSA contact center in a reply to a FTer stated that student ID was an acceptable form of photo ID. See: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showp...&postcount=175
Originally Posted by TSA contact center
If you have a paper ticket for a domestic flight, passengers age 18 and over must present one form of photo identification issued by a local state of federal government agency (e.g.: passport, drivers license. Military ID, current student ID with photo), or two forms of non-photo identification, one of which must have been issued by a state or federal agency (e.g.: U.S. social security card). For an international flight, you will need to present a valid passport, visa, or any other required documentation.
The real answer is to drop the ID requirement entirely or leave it to the airlines to implement their own revenue-protection schemes, but DHS is so idiotically in love with its completely useless no-fly list that such common sense will never happen. :mad: |
Even if there is a law that says they need to carry a passport, does not mean the TSA can demand it be shown.
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Even if there is a law that says they need to carry a passport, does not mean the TSA can demand it be shown. |
UK driving licence for PHL-MCO.. he gave it a good going over but when the expiry date was pointed out to him he initialled the BP and through we went
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I had a couple of fun experiences late last year using a Japanese alien registration card to board domestic flights in the US. The details are all blogged here:
http://www.mutantfrog.com/2007/11/27...-is-too-weird/ In the end, TSA let me through twice... |
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