TSA plan to gather more data protested
#1
Original Poster




Join Date: May 2007
Location: Bansko, Bulgaria
Programs: Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 1,260
TSA plan to gather more data protested
Wow...... I'm speechless...
From USA today.
http://www.usatoday.com/travel/fligh...terstitialskip
Really - read the whole thing. But some highlights...
The Transportation Security Administration (TSA) wants passengers to give the additional personal information — as well as their full names — so it can do more precise background checks that it says will result in fewer travelers being mistaken for terrorists. Travelers currently must provide only a last name and a first initial.
AND
People who don't comply could be more easily mistaken for a terrorist and "may be more likely to experience delays, be subjected to additional screening (or) be denied transport," the TSA wrote.
From USA today.
http://www.usatoday.com/travel/fligh...terstitialskip
Really - read the whole thing. But some highlights...
The Transportation Security Administration (TSA) wants passengers to give the additional personal information — as well as their full names — so it can do more precise background checks that it says will result in fewer travelers being mistaken for terrorists. Travelers currently must provide only a last name and a first initial.
AND
People who don't comply could be more easily mistaken for a terrorist and "may be more likely to experience delays, be subjected to additional screening (or) be denied transport," the TSA wrote.
#3
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: ORD, MBS
Programs: UA Plat., 1.52 MM
Posts: 2,053
As a memeber of M+ UA has already my birthdate.
@:-) In fact I use it to get discounted fares.

As for the TSA staff, they wave and greet me by name before each check.
Its the high airfare that I am unhappy about.
#4
Original Poster




Join Date: May 2007
Location: Bansko, Bulgaria
Programs: Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 1,260
Maybe you are happy giving them all of your information ahead of time so they can do a background check on you... but I'm not.
#6
Suspended
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 4,953
What good is it going to do anyway, as I'm sure that the birth dates of most would-be terrorists are either not known or are incorrect. It's not known for certain when Osama was born, although his birthdate is thought to be March 10, 1957.
#9
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: SNA
Programs: UA Million Mile Nobody, Marriott Platinum Elite, SPG Gold
Posts: 25,228
There is a difference between voluntarily providing personal information to a private company and being compelled by the government to provide it.
#10




Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: DCA / WAS
Programs: DL 2+ million/PM, YX, Marriott Plt, *wood gold, HHonors, CO Plt, UA, AA EXP, WN, AGR
Posts: 9,386
Next thing you know, it'll be your SSN for instant background checks.
#11
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend




Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: LAX/TPE
Programs: United 1K, JAL Sapphire, SPG Lifetime Platinum, National Executive Elite, Hertz PC, Avis PC
Posts: 47,138
They can already pull that quite easily after getting your name, credit card and other information from the PNR. Don't assume they're not already accessing that data.
#13


Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: NJ
Programs: Retired-CO Former Long-time Plat, Now a Kettle, Hilton Gold (Thanks AMEX)
Posts: 475
#14
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: SQL
Programs: SPG Platinum; Hyatt Platinum; UA 1K
Posts: 3,170
Here is what I find interesting:
1) It seems like this change will remove the power of the airline to deselect pax, as the selection is now done by the TSA and not the carrier.
2) The implementation of the DOB/Sex is highly likely to be so flawed as to actually provide less security than the current situation. Unless the DOB/Sex is printed on the BP or the ID checker has a terminal to pull up this info, there will be no positive matching of DOB to ID, and therefore a terrorist who would today be stopped can simply provide an incorrect DOB to the airline, and then board using his real ID. Essentially, it will be the equivalent of "No, he's not the Osama bin Laden whom we are looking for - no need for SSSS."
#15




Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: DCA / WAS
Programs: DL 2+ million/PM, YX, Marriott Plt, *wood gold, HHonors, CO Plt, UA, AA EXP, WN, AGR
Posts: 9,386
But just like I have to bring a document to DMV to "prove" my SSN (even though they can and do check it electronically), I can see TSA requiring us to give it to them "just because" (it makes their life easier). And from their perspective, it also gives them another "proof" to turn you over to LE for providing false info to the government. Bury 'em (us) with paperwork and at some point they'll (we'll) screw up.




