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Old Nov 2, 2007 | 9:39 am
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Passenger indicted and pleads guilty to interference of a flight crew

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drm...639468,00.html

Where were the vigilant pax on this one?

Here's the guilty plea:
http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news...90/detail.html
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Old Nov 2, 2007 | 9:50 am
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Originally Posted by law dawg
Where were the vigilant pax on this one?
Where was the danger to the airplane's safety?
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Old Nov 2, 2007 | 10:11 am
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Where was the danger to the airplane's safety?
So because there was no danger to the aircraft, I'll just mind my own business while this woman beats her children and assaults FA's. Way to step up.
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Old Nov 2, 2007 | 10:24 am
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So because there was no danger to the aircraft, I'll just mind my own business while this woman beats her children and assaults FA's. Way to step up.
A BIG +1
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Old Nov 2, 2007 | 10:29 am
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So because there was no danger to the aircraft, I'll just mind my own business while this woman beats her children and assaults FA's. Way to step up.

Apples and oranges.

The OP was poking fun at posts made in other threads that point out others stepping into action should an airplane's safety and its passengers become threatened.

On a human level, yes, of course it's abhorrent that other passengers didn't step up in this situation.

Do you understand that?
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Old Nov 2, 2007 | 10:34 am
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Originally Posted by LessO2
Apples and oranges.

The OP was poking fun at posts made in other threads that point out others stepping into action should an airplane's safety and its passengers become threatened.

On a human level, yes, of course it's abhorrent that other passengers didn't step up in this situation.

Do you understand that?
Okay, let's turn it around then:

Is the only function of a FAM on a plane counter-terroristic in nature, then? They serve no LEO function?

And, if not, then who does?
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Old Nov 2, 2007 | 10:43 am
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Originally Posted by LessO2
Apples and oranges.

The OP was poking fun at posts made in other threads that point out others stepping into action should an airplane's safety and its passengers become threatened.

On a human level, yes, of course it's abhorrent that other passengers didn't step up in this situation.

Do you understand that?
I understand perfectly. People like to talk about how big and tough they are, but when faced with and actual situation, they become sheep.
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Old Nov 2, 2007 | 11:04 am
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Originally Posted by mmartin4600
So because there was no danger to the aircraft, I'll just mind my own business while this woman beats her children and assaults FA's. Way to step up.
Read the second link. There was no "beating", assault charges were dropped, nothing about "throwing" drinks.

Minor incident. Exaggerated. Don't let that stop you from lathering up though.
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Old Nov 2, 2007 | 11:13 am
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Read the second link. There was no "beating", assault charges were dropped, nothing about "throwing" drinks.
Dropped in the plea agreement. Witnesses still say she did it.

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Minor incident. Exaggerated.
So if it's just a minor incident, mind your own business. When does it become a major incident. When should other passengers get involved?
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Old Nov 2, 2007 | 11:49 am
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This quote from that article is the most ridiculous thing I have read all week ... and I've even hung out in OMNI this week

... Diana Fairechild, an authority on air travel, health and safety who runs flyana.com, a Web site for those taking to the air.

She has read of Tamera Jo Freeman's case, and takes a different view: The woman, she says, may be a victim in all of this.
"This happens because people are herded in long lines onto planes, are treated like cargo in seats smaller than those on subways, with no food, no liquids and little, badly contaminated air," she said. ...
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Old Nov 2, 2007 | 11:52 am
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If she was as intoxicated as the first article implies, why was she allowed on the plane in the first place? Shouldn't the airline bear culpability?

Thought so.
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Old Nov 2, 2007 | 11:58 am
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Witnesses still say she did it.
I thought someone informed us recently that witnesses are always unreliable ?

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Old Nov 2, 2007 | 11:59 am
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Originally Posted by Global_Hi_Flyer
If she was as intoxicated as the first article implies, why was she allowed on the plane in the first place? Shouldn't the airline bear culpability?

Thought so.
of course not ... didnt you read the quote I posted? It was the small seats and contaminated air on that horribly long San Francisco-to-Denver flight. It had nothing to do with the fact that she was drunk and the fact that she was beating her kids before she ever entered the plane was irrlevant.

lol

disclaimer for the humor impaired: I was just joking
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Old Nov 2, 2007 | 12:05 pm
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I thought someone informed us recently that witnesses are always unreliable ?

They usually are under stressful events. Stress distorts memory.

Whether this one was stressful to the witnesses observing it, I can't say.
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Old Nov 2, 2007 | 12:08 pm
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Originally Posted by Wally Bird
Read the second link. There was no "beating", assault charges were dropped, nothing about "throwing" drinks.

Minor incident. Exaggerated. Don't let that stop you from lathering up though.
Try this one:
http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news...90/detail.html
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