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Old Oct 25, 2007 | 12:55 pm
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Widerøe pilot: "Enough security checks...I am no terrorist!"

Enough security checks

At least one pilot in airline Widerøe has opted for early retirement rather than continue to endure the security routines at Norwegian airports.

Tom Erik Liverud, head of Widerøe's pilot union confirmed this to newspaper Adresseavisen.

A captain chose to retire early primarily because of what he called "security madness".

"He is happy to be retired and finished with this. This is a marked contrast to some years ago when pilots were sad to give up their dream jobs when they passed 60," Liverud said.

Just a few days ago a Widerøe pilot delayed a departure from Namsos for refusing to take off his shoes in a security check, and reportedly screamed - 'I am no terrorist!'.

http://www.aftenposten.no/english/lo...cle2063130.ece
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Old Oct 25, 2007 | 1:02 pm
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"The security demands are all for show and in some situations are counterproductive. All a pilot needs to crash a plane is his hands..." Liverud said.

Now that gives me a warm fuzzy!!!!
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Old Oct 25, 2007 | 1:06 pm
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Originally Posted by Caroline's Rub
"The security demands are all for show and in some situations are counterproductive. All a pilot needs to crash a plane is his hands..." Liverud said.

Now that gives me a warm fuzzy!!!!
It's true, though.

We need to stop both pilot and passenger harassment. "Security" is nothing more than a sick joke these days. No more shoe carnivals! And severe punishment for those who have instituted and maintained these shoe carnivals!
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Old Oct 25, 2007 | 1:13 pm
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Don't get me wrong...I totally agree with him and I really doubt that there are pilots out there that would even consider this. But I have to admit it is a bit disturbing to think about!!
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Old Oct 25, 2007 | 1:29 pm
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Originally Posted by Caroline's Rub
Don't get me wrong...I totally agree with him and I really doubt that there are pilots out there that would even consider this. But I have to admit it is a bit disturbing to think about!!
It's happened before and if another Pilot was determined to do it again, no current security folly is going to stop him or her:

http://www.sptimes.com/2002/03/22/Wo...entional.shtml
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Old Oct 25, 2007 | 6:23 pm
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Originally Posted by OutOfOffice
It's happened before and if another Pilot was determined to do it again, no current security folly is going to stop him or her:

http://www.sptimes.com/2002/03/22/Wo...entional.shtml
That's not the "best" example of "it's happened before".

Whatever, it doesn't change that a shoe-bomber pilot would have to be an idiot when they don't need that to engage in an act of terrorism.

The "shoes off" is a farce, and this pilot called it as it is.
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Old Oct 30, 2007 | 1:12 pm
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Would this suffice as an example? (Air Botswana pilot takes off in an ATR-42, cruises about a while, executes two loops and dives it into two other ATR-42s parked at the airport.) Fortunately, no passengers or ground crew were involved.

Originally Posted by Caroline's Rub
Don't get me wrong...I totally agree with him and I really doubt that there are pilots out there that would even consider this. But I have to admit it is a bit disturbing to think about!!
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Old Oct 30, 2007 | 1:42 pm
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Would this suffice as an example? (Air Botswana pilot takes off in an ATR-42, cruises about a while, executes two loops and dives it into two other ATR-42s parked at the airport.) Fortunately, no passengers or ground crew were involved.
Unlike that incident, here's one with speculation about a suicidal pilot with a Silk Air flight too: http://www.singapore-window.org/sw99/90208sm.htm
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Fedex 705

While not a passenger flight, this did happen in the US http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FedEx_Flight_705

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Originally Posted by Caroline's Rub
Don't get me wrong...I totally agree with him and I really doubt that there are pilots out there that would even consider this. But I have to admit it is a bit disturbing to think about!!
That's life. Somethings are disturbing. But if you don't think about disturbing things occasionally, you live in an imaginary puff ball. It may seem warm and fuzzy, but it isn't real and it can actually be more dangerous in there.
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