Amtrak and ID
 

Last tour of duty, the evening of 13th September, while on the northbound San Joaquin from Bakersfield, CA to Hanford, CA a conductor came by to check tickets and ID's. One guy sitting not too far away did not or said he did not have ID. I overheard the conductor say that he would let it slide this time but normally if someone does not have ID the police are supposed to be called to find out why the person does not have ID.

This is becoming truly frightening.

You don't need an ID to fly domestically, so why should you need an ID to take the train?

Reference from Amtrak Website.

I agree that this is appalling, but they do tell you about the requirement on their web site.

I always thought the whole point of amtrak or greyhound was because someone did not have a drivers license. True there are state IDs, but they are not as cool.

It's interesting that you must produce ID at the request of an Amtrak janitor.

We are well on the way to the day when it will be illegal to lose your ID or have your ID stolen. People already get arrested for failing to present ID to a cop (even though such an arrest is generally unconstitutional).

Can you withhold ID on the fact that you don't want to be identified riding on Amtrak? :D

More than appalling...
 

Yes, they disclose it, but that doesn't make it right.

What other option for train travel does one have other than this federally subsidized/controlled entity.

Amerika - love it or leave it.

But you can't leave without ID.

Yes you can. You can walk into Mexico without ID.

As for the janitor comment...that isn't strictly true, because the policy says you only have to produce ID for Amtrak employees "on board trains". Amtrak trains do not have janitors, as such.

I wish I was as sanguine about that as it sounds. :(

"Papiere, Bitte."

"Ja."

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Foreshadows of the mark of the beast. Details in Revelation chapter 13 especially verses 16-18 also chapter 14 verses 9-11 et al

My older son was not permitted to board an Amtrak train at Union Station in Los Angeles this March without ID. He scrounged around Skid Row and got on Greyhound. The younger one has never been allowed on the northbound trains from Solana Beach without ID.