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Bomb threat forces Northwest flight to return to Sea-Tac

Old Jul 25, 07, 4:29 pm
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Bomb threat forces Northwest flight to return to Sea-Tac

Bomb threat forces Northwest flight to return to Sea-Tac

By KOMO Staff & News Services
SEATAC, Wash. -- A Northwest Airlines flight returned to Seattle-Tacoma International Airport on Wednesday after a man said there was a bomb on the plane, though investigators do not believe the threat was credible.

Airport spokeswoman Terri Anne Betancourt said a passenger who had cleared a security checkpoint told an employee at the gate that a bomb was on Northwest Airlines flight 980.

Betancourt said the man was ticketed to be on the flight but did not check any luggage and was never on the plane, which left Seattle about 12:30 p.m. She said the man's motive was unclear, but "it was clear he wanted the plane to come back."

The Airbus A320 was scheduled to fly to Memphis but returned to Sea-Tac just after 1 p.m. where it taxied to the west side of the airport and was met by police and fire department personnel. The 142 passengers remained onboard.

Police were interviewing the pilots, trying to determine how extensive a security sweep they needed to make before allowing the plane to fly to Memphis.

The man who made the threat was arrested. "After interviewing him, they said they do not believe it was a credible bomb threat," Betancourt said.
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Old Jul 25, 07, 4:34 pm
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faa.gov is reporting a ground stop for SEA, could this be a terminal dump in progress with all flights having to deplane and reclear security?
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Originally Posted by YEG Guy View Post
faa.gov is reporting a ground stop for SEA, could this be a terminal dump in progress with all flights having to deplane and reclear security?
Security was the reason, but it's just this minute been lifted: http://www.fly.faa.gov/flyfaa/flyfaa...p?ARPT=SEA&p=0
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Old Jul 25, 07, 5:10 pm
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Originally Posted by jonesing View Post
The Airbus A320 was scheduled to fly to Memphis but returned to Sea-Tac just after 1 p.m. where it taxied to the west side of the airport and was met by police and fire department personnel. The 142 passengers remained onboard.
There's a bomb on board, so let's keep everyone on the plane where it could blow them up.

Farce, thy name is TSA.
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Old Jul 25, 07, 5:13 pm
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There's a bomb on board, so let's keep everyone on the plane where it could blow them up.

Farce, thy name is TSA.
Not TSA's call.

Where do you people get this stuff?
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Old Jul 25, 07, 5:16 pm
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Originally Posted by Superguy View Post
There's a bomb on board, so let's keep everyone on the plane where it could blow them up.
I hadn't even thought about that!

Police were interviewing the pilots, trying to determine how extensive a security sweep they needed to make before allowing the plane to fly to Memphis.
Bomb Cop: Whaddaya think Mike? Have the dogs sniff every row and then do the cargo hold?

Pilot Mike: Nahhh, just do every other row and skip the cargo hold, I'm hungry! Besides, only our ground crew can load stuff down there and they didn't report anything so we must be clean.
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Originally Posted by Superguy View Post
There's a bomb on board, so let's keep everyone on the plane where it could blow them up.
I made the same comment when I started this thread a little earlier:

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Originally Posted by law dawg View Post
Not TSA's call.

Where do you people get this stuff?
yes it is not the tsa's call but instead of 140 or so people flying around with an alleged bomb on board, you have them safely on the ground but still inside the plane. it's simple, securely off load the pax and take them to a remote (and secure location). no bags no nothing but wallets with i/d's and let the bomb squad folks do their thing.

wheel the stairs to the plane
a bus (with leos on board) is waiting at the bottom of the stairs with its door open (and more busses are lined up behind it)
pax descend the stairs (leos at the top and the bottom of the stairs) and directly board the bus
full bus moves on to remote and secure location
next bus moves into postion
repeat as needed until all are offloaded (including crew)

simple and makes sense.
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Originally Posted by law dawg View Post
Not TSA's call.

Where do you people get this stuff?
TSA dumps terminals and stuff over bomb threats or something "sneaking" by and has to rescreen everyone.

You honestly think TSA wasn't involved in this? After all, if they were so sure of their screening, nothing would have gotten on the plane, right? Of course, maybe uninspected cargo.

And I'm sure TSA would have rescreened everyone on the plane too.

Direct call to keep them on board? Don't know. However, I wouldn't be surprised if TSA didn't want them "tainting" the "sterile" area, thus requiring them to remain on board.
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That idiots is going to rot in jail... what a dummy...
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Originally Posted by Superguy View Post
TSA dumps terminals and stuff over bomb threats or something "sneaking" by and has to rescreen everyone.

You honestly think TSA wasn't involved in this? After all, if they were so sure of their screening, nothing would have gotten on the plane, right? Of course, maybe uninspected cargo.

And I'm sure TSA would have rescreened everyone on the plane too.

Direct call to keep them on board? Don't know. However, I wouldn't be surprised if TSA didn't want them "tainting" the "sterile" area, thus requiring them to remain on board.
Do you think a screener ran out on the tarmac with their wand and demanded the plane stay put and everyone on board?

TSA has no input in this. Local LEOS and Fire/Rescue and maybe the FAA and FBI made that call. It's on the tarmac for Christ's sake.
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Old Jul 25, 07, 11:45 pm
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Originally Posted by goalie View Post
yes it is not the tsa's call but instead of 140 or so people flying around with an alleged bomb on board, you have them safely on the ground but still inside the plane. it's simple, securely off load the pax and take them to a remote (and secure location). no bags no nothing but wallets with i/d's and let the bomb squad folks do their thing.

wheel the stairs to the plane
a bus (with leos on board) is waiting at the bottom of the stairs with its door open (and more busses are lined up behind it)
pax descend the stairs (leos at the top and the bottom of the stairs) and directly board the bus
full bus moves on to remote and secure location
next bus moves into postion
repeat as needed until all are offloaded (including crew)

simple and makes sense.
Sounds good to me, except move the bus(es) a little further away from the potential bomb. The pax can run to the bus if need be.
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Old Jul 25, 07, 11:55 pm
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Originally Posted by law dawg View Post
Do you think a screener ran out on the tarmac with their wand and demanded the plane stay put and everyone on board?
As you so aptly remind us from time to time, TSA is more than just screeners. Could be an FSD's call.

TSA has no input in this. Local LEOS and Fire/Rescue and maybe the FAA and FBI made that call. It's on the tarmac for Christ's sake.
So what does being on the tarmac have anything to do with anything? It's a plane, and it's securing our national airspace. It's TSA's. Or so you've said in the past. National Security 101.

TSA tells people D Y W T F T ... why can't it with planes if it thinks there's a reason?

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Old Jul 26, 07, 12:01 am
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As you so aptly remind us from time to time, TSA is more than just screeners. Could be an FSD's call.
The FSD is over the TSA but not part of the TSA. Just like if Bush made a call we couldn't blame the IRS, much as we'd like to.

So what does being on the tarmac have anything to do with anything? It's a plane, and it's securing our national airspace. It's TSA's. Or so you've said in the past. National Security 101.

TSA tells people D Y W T F T ... why can't it with planes if it thinks there's a reason?

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The tarmac is the providence of other agencies, also involved in securing said airspace. Not all national security is concentrated in one place, quite the contrary.
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