I was thinking that a fun experiment would be to create fake labels for 5-10oz containers that say in 12 point-type "3 oz" or even "Convenient TSA-compliant 3-oz size!", put a bunch of those in my quart bag and see what happens. ^

If it worked I'd make the labels available on my Ebay store!

Some of the posts in this thread are absolutely pathetic.

The logic seems to be "If I don't like a rule, I can break it and I'm a hero for doing so". :rolleyes:

As for the harm, try being a few minutes late for a flight and get caught in a line full of bag checks. There is NOTHING more aggravating than a bad situation made worse by irresponsible people. (Not that it has ever happened to me):cool:

Regardless of the validity oif the rules, the bottom line is that people who follow the rules and just try to get through the checkpoint get caught up in needless delays.

JMHO

Gawd, I so TOTALLY agree. Like that uppity Rosa Parks! Jeez, just shut up and sit in the back of the bus!

Or Mahatma Gandhi and his ridiculous Satyagraha. Just shut the eff up and do what the Viceroy says!!!!!
@:-)

Stupid irresponsible people making waves for those of us what WANT to be forced to sit in the back of the bus and pay the salt tax!

Not sure who this is directed toward, but you totally miss the point. And I take it from your Name that you are sensitive to the events of 9/11, as am I. I lost a friend in the Pentagon and, FYI, happened to work for the government on 9/11 and was intimately involved in 9/11 response. Now, having said that, the problem is with the government implementing needless rules which in turn increases citizens' cynicism toward government. DHS/TSA is at the top of the list for doing just this.

I keep my stupid baggie in my bag and, as I said, have had it checked by TSA only a few times - which never held up anyone else. The rest of the time I walk through with my baggie in my bag, and watch others being lectured on how to pack a baggie, or how they have too much in their baggie.

Taking the bag out of the luggage does nothing in terms of safety. It only punishes the innocent. The x-ray machines do not tell anyone whether the liquids are flammable, explosives or otherwise. TSA can easily tell, with my baggie in my luggage, that I have my baggie, that's all. They can't even tell (or don't care, which is even more aggravating) that my baggie is on the inside or outside of my bag. I just smile at those who spend the time taking their baggies out, laying it on top of their luggage, sending it through x-ray, and do it because it's the rule.

Lemmings. We're all becoming lemmings.

Sorry, but I had to vent.

Not my fault if others accept the mindless diktats issued by those who make it their business to perpetuate the bureaucratic delays. Go follow the herd along to the precipice if you feel the need to be ruled, but don't expect me to.

Hero? Maybe, maybe not. At least they aren't complying with a pointless, invalid, and (as has been mentioned here several times already) COUNTERPRODUCTIVE rule put in place, apparently, solely to harass air travellers. Since there's nothing else it could ***POSSIBLY*** do.:td:


Perhaps if you (or rather, our hypothetical late traveller) had been responsible enough to get to the airport with plenty of lead time to deal with the ludicrous TSA so-called "safety checks", you (or he) wouldn't have had that problem.

See, others can use the "responsibility" card effectively, too. :p

Now, to REALLY address the actual root problem - get rid of the stupid, pointless, and counterproductive CRAP - like the War On Shampoo And Bottled Water, and the Shoe Carnival - and those delays just GO AWAY, leaving your path to the departure gate much clearer.@:-)^


And you're welcome to it. Don't ask me to go along with the lemming mentality that seems to be inherent in it. Don't tell me to just go along, "just follow the rules regardless of their validity" - if we don't challenge this sort of crap, it'll NEVER be fixed. And that's completely unacceptable.

Yes. If the rule exists only to manufacture the illusion that the TSA is doing something useful to keep those evil terraists away, then by breaking it, I'm striking a small blow for the idea of freedom. That, my friend, is a heroic act - unlike rifling through people's underwear to confiscate their bottles of atomic Head & Shoulders and explosive deodorant sticks.

The more people who disobey a bad law, the more obvious it is that the law is bad.

Yeah - by all means strike a blow for the idea of freedom.

Just don't do it in front of me at the JFK checkpoint on a Friday evening, willya? Write to your congresspersons when you get home. You're not going to get a TSA robot to change the rules for you or anyone else - so quit wasting your, my, and their time.

I imagine many people didn't like the fact that their trips to work were delayed some days by tens of thousands of people marching in the streets of Southern cities demanding an end to segregation.

Besides, I've never delayed anyone, because not a single screener has ever found my liquids and gels.

You're comparing someone hiding liquids to Rosa Parks and Ghandi? :rolleyes:

THEY didn't have a voice in the controlling government.

I completely understand your point, but I disagree with your methodology.

For those who haven't read my previous posts, WWNF is not just about 9/11, but who we are as a whole. There is a reason people are risking life and limb just to get the chance to live in the United States.

Yes: $$.

We will never forget that bureaucrats and wannabe-fascists are using 9/11 as an excuse to erode our civil liberties.

We will never forget that they're trampling on the memories of those who died in order to line the pockets of corporate contractors.

We will never forget that while an army of Thousands Standing Around goons strip-search air travelers in an effort to find contraband shampoo bottles, less than one percent of the millions of shipping containers that arrive in our ports every day are ever inspected.

We will never forget that what the terrorists hate are not our buildings, not our flags, but our freedoms - and when our government takes away our freedoms under the guise of security, the terrorists win.

On person, gets by more often than not.

I sort of disagree on that one, but the potential is there.


100% correct.

You are blaming the workers for the policies of the bureaucrats? Hardly the best way to address the subject. Also, strip-searches are not conducted by screeners, so the dramatic effect shows way too much bias. Why woulkd you want to check cargo containers anyway? Nobody sees it, thus they cannot be impressed with how well they are being protected. :D

The only "freedom" loss I've encountered is the ability to carry a lot of liquids and some time going through security. Maybe I'm naive, but it seems like a pittance compared to what others have lost. Personally, I worry more about the data that private companies mine on me as opposed to the Government.

And the chance to enjoy freedoms few other places have.

Try walking down the street waving an American flag in Caracas telling the Government "I dare you to try to send me home" and let me know how it works out.