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Old Feb 25, 2007 | 7:12 pm
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Originally Posted by christep
And for Japan from cxagents.com:

"Enhanced Aviation Security Rules for International Flights departing Japan

Effective 01 March 2007, following enhanced aviation security rules would apply to all cabin baggages carried on all international flights departing from Japan :

* All liquids, gels and aerosols such as water, toothpaste, hair gel, spray etc must be contained in individual containers no greater than 100 ml in capacity. They should be packed in one single transparent and re-sealable plastic bag with maximum capacity not more than one litre.

* Passengers are requested to show the plastic bag separately from other carry-on baggage at the security checkpoint.

* The minimum necessary amount of liquid medicine, baby milk / food and other special dietary products may be carried on board by declaring the goods to the security agent. Please be prepared to present the medicine prescription upon request by the agent."
Actually this is better than what was there this month. NO water/liquids/gels permitted in Japan airports or in Philippines airports past security. They had signs saying NO liquids at the x ray you go into after getting off the plane into NRT. Secondary gate search for the contraban liquids in NRT at the jetway. Although we all know it to be a farce, it has unfortunately caught on.

BTW, it seems that everyone thinks it was the US that began the water madness.... completely forgetting the Brits role in it all
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Old Feb 26, 2007 | 3:46 am
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Originally Posted by secretsea18
Actually this is better than what was there this month. NO water/liquids/gels permitted in Japan airports or in Philippines airports past security.
The current rules in Japan with respect to liquids only apply to flights bound for liquid-restricted countries like the US. And those rules are the familiar limitations of 100mL per container with everything fitting inside one 1-liter baggie. I have flown from NRT to the US twice since last November (including a trip last week) and declared my baggie at the security check at the gate and was allowed to take my liquids.

But Japan will soon adopt these idiotic restrictions for all international departures. (Good thing the terrorists would never think to attack flights bound for Japan. )
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Old Feb 26, 2007 | 5:44 pm
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Originally Posted by Unimatrix One
The current rules in Japan with respect to liquids only apply to flights bound for liquid-restricted countries like the US. And those rules are the familiar limitations of 100mL per container with everything fitting inside one 1-liter baggie. I have flown from NRT to the US twice since last November (including a trip last week) and declared my baggie at the security check at the gate and was allowed to take my liquids.
I'm flying out of NRT today (going to SIN) but will return through NRT on Saturday, connecting to an AA flight to DFW.

At security today I saw posters saying NO LIQUIDS to flights heading to US and/or on US carriers. So I'm confused - are they enforcing the total liquids ban or can you carry on your baggie, on a US-bound flight from NRT?

AA web site says you can carry a baggie. JAL web site says you can carry a baggie. The poster I saw at the security screen is what confused me.

For the record, the screeners here in NRT couldn't have been nicer and more polite and orderly. The controlled the passengers thru the Xray so there wasn't a huge crush after the Xray machine, so I wasn't worried about my stuff getting stolen on the other side. I wish the TSA would take training from them.
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Old Feb 26, 2007 | 6:32 pm
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Originally Posted by pacer142
That said, UK airports would require a lot more staff to do gate security than others, as there isn't an outbound passport check. That being the case, you'd need an airside/landside delimiter which would probably have to take the form of manned barriers checking boarding cards. The Netherlands does check people out, so the passport control forms a natural barrier.
If the security is at the gate and there's no outbound passport control then why have restrictions as to who can enter this area? Because of the mix of EU/non-EU pax they have to check your boarding pass if you're buying duty free anyway, so people couldn't just wander into the shops and buy cheap cigarettes and booze.
Schiphol would also have problems going the other way (except in the domestic terminal) and introducing entrance-only security, because arriving and departing passengers aren't separated, and it'd be a lot of work to introduce separation. Not that I want them to - it's one of my favourite airports because (transfer luggage losses aside) it just *works*.
Security at the gate at schiphol was only introduced a few years ago, prior to that arriving pax were not rescreened. But these days I think EU airports have to have either segregated arrivals/departures sections or gate security. Given the choice I'd go for the gate security. It'd be annoying to arrive at D20, find out your connection is in D18 but then have to walk all the way out of arrivals into a transfer point where you rescreen.
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Old Feb 26, 2007 | 8:24 pm
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Originally Posted by kbins
I'm flying out of NRT today (going to SIN) but will return through NRT on Saturday, connecting to an AA flight to DFW.

At security today I saw posters saying NO LIQUIDS to flights heading to US and/or on US carriers. So I'm confused - are they enforcing the total liquids ban or can you carry on your baggie, on a US-bound flight from NRT?

AA web site says you can carry a baggie. JAL web site says you can carry a baggie. The poster I saw at the security screen is what confused me.

For the record, the screeners here in NRT couldn't have been nicer and more polite and orderly. The controlled the passengers thru the Xray so there wasn't a huge crush after the Xray machine, so I wasn't worried about my stuff getting stolen on the other side. I wish the TSA would take training from them.
Not sure if I'm replying in time for your trip, but I would guess the poster at the checkpoint is just poorly designed. Probably by someone without good enough English to come up with the correct explanation for the 100 mL container, 1L baggie rules. You should have no trouble bringing a baggie.

And I agree with you about Japanese screeners: very professional and polite.
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