Safer without security? No.
Safer without the TSA? Yes.

There is a major difference between security and circus which Komrade Kip tries to pass off as security.

Who said there would be no security?

You may want to check your needle 'cause I do believe you are a skipping...

How does not wanting the TSA = not wanting any security at all?

Do you always assume? (by the way, that was rhetorical)

Now that's using your head:rolleyes:

Get pissed? Not worth it.

Explain to them that what they do is wrong and counter-productive? Fruitless maybe. Truthful? Absolutely. No harm in trying should one care to, imho.

So are agents of all kinds of governments around this world. Many of which I imagine you'd consider highly immoral. That doesn't make what they do right or productive.

LOL. Nice. :D

To the extent it provides any, which is highly debatable, it does so in a way that is much less efficient, much less moral, and much more economically destructive than what existed before it and what would exist without it.

LOL. Now I know you're joking. Good one.

The same sheep who have a hard time thinking without Kip's help

Probably because you are.

If I am getting the message wrong, must be the fault of the messengers, because I am not the only one who reads it that way.

Just seems that there's only a couple people willing to stand up to the bullying

got that on a t-shirt yet? :rolleyes:

No one is bullying you.

The problem is that you believe that without the TSA, there would be no airport security.

This is so intellectually lazy, it's hard for anyone here to know how to help you out of this.

I hear people saying we don't need this war
I say there's some things worth fighting for
What about our freedom and this piece of ground?
We didn't get to keep 'em by backing down
They say we don't realize the mess we're getting in
Before you start preaching
Let me ask you this my friend

CHORUS 1
Have you forgotten how it felt that day
To see your homeland under fire
And her people blown away?
Have you forgotten when those towers fell?
We had neighbors still inside
Going through a living hell
And you say we shouldn't worry 'bout Bin Laden
Have you forgotten?

They took all the footage off my T.V.
Said it's too disturbing for you and me
It'll just breed anger that's what the experts say
If it was up to me I'd show it every day
Some say this country's just out looking for a fight
After 9/11 man I'd have to say that's right

CHORUS 1
Have you forgotten how it felt that day
To see your homeland under fire
And her people blown away?
Have you forgotten when those towers fell?
We had neighbors still inside
Going through a living hell
And we vowed to get the ones behind Bin Laden
Have you forgotten?

I've been there with the soldiers
Who've gone away to war
And you can bet that they remember
Just what they're fighting for

CHORUS 2
Have you forgotten all the people killed?
Yes, some went down like heroes in that Pennsylvania field
Have you forgotten about our Pentagon?
All the loved ones that we lost
And those left to carry on
Don't you tell me not to worry 'bout Bin Laden
Have you forgotten?

Have you forgotten?
Have you forgotten?

BTW, I think granny was on the mark ^ ^ ^

Some of you pass the idea that any form of security is an infringement on your rights...No ID checks, no BP checks, no detectors, nothing.

Big 'ol giant open building that planes park at and anyone can come and go as they please.

If I got that wrong, it's the fault of the messenger