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But 33 fl. oz. isn't? Come on...
Okay, let's assume that 34 fl. oz. of certain chemicals brought by terrorists is "enough of something to cause a problem." So the TSA confiscates them, dumps them in a big trash bag together, and leaves them. They get rattled, shaken, carried around, etc. The tops on a few come unscrewed. The chemicals mix. If this mix would have had the power to blow up an airplane, it certainly has the power to blow up a portion of an airport. So bam! Security checkpoint gone. That essentially means the airport is shut down. Due to long lines at the security checkpoint, hundreds of people are crowded into a small area - the same small area that blew up. Hundreds of people are killed, more injured. Sounds to me like the terrorists who set out to kill hundreds of people accomplished their goal. So why are we letting TSA help them?
Terrorists could start to count on TSA's incompetence in this matter. Leave lightly screwed-on caps and let the TSA confiscate the liquid. Go on and take their flight. No suspicion will fall on them; thousands of bottles of liquids are confiscated every day.
The TSA is providing nothing more than the illusion of security. In no matter can our security be guaranteed.
"Security is the absence of all insecurity. The only way to be secure is to have absolutely nothing that's not secure." -Steve Gibson
Okay, let's assume that 34 fl. oz. of certain chemicals brought by terrorists is "enough of something to cause a problem." So the TSA confiscates them, dumps them in a big trash bag together, and leaves them. They get rattled, shaken, carried around, etc. The tops on a few come unscrewed. The chemicals mix. If this mix would have had the power to blow up an airplane, it certainly has the power to blow up a portion of an airport. So bam! Security checkpoint gone. That essentially means the airport is shut down. Due to long lines at the security checkpoint, hundreds of people are crowded into a small area - the same small area that blew up. Hundreds of people are killed, more injured. Sounds to me like the terrorists who set out to kill hundreds of people accomplished their goal. So why are we letting TSA help them?
Terrorists could start to count on TSA's incompetence in this matter. Leave lightly screwed-on caps and let the TSA confiscate the liquid. Go on and take their flight. No suspicion will fall on them; thousands of bottles of liquids are confiscated every day.
The TSA is providing nothing more than the illusion of security. In no matter can our security be guaranteed.
"Security is the absence of all insecurity. The only way to be secure is to have absolutely nothing that's not secure." -Steve Gibson
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Its a step in the wrong direction!
if you read through all the TSA related threads, there are several good
suggestions there... including investment in explosive detection technology
and cargo screening.... but
Money is wasted for a lot of useless things while obvious is overlooked
if you read through all the TSA related threads, there are several good
suggestions there... including investment in explosive detection technology
and cargo screening.... but
Money is wasted for a lot of useless things while obvious is overlooked
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Oh yeah, every business and governmental agency listens to and does exactly what they're told to do from internet website forum posters.
Happens daily
Happens daily
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Until Comrade Hawley proves the existance of a so-called binary liquid explosive, he's a liar. No such thing exists.
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So should we replace the TSA with my magic rock?
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I believe in the scientific method and citing one's sources. Comrade Hawley has failed to do either and other scientists agree with me, that his liquid idiocy is just that: idiocy.
If you have some proof to the contrary, I'd be pleased to listen.
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Because "those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." -Richard Jackson, in a letter from the Assembly to the Governor of Pennsylvania, 1755
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Respectfully Quoted: A Dictionary of Quotations.
AUTHOR: Benjamin Franklin (170690)
QUOTATION: Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.
ATTRIBUTION: BENJAMIN FRANKLIN, Pennsylvania Assembly: Reply to the Governor, November 11, 1755.The Papers of Benjamin Franklin, ed. Leonard W. Labaree, vol. 6, p. 242 (1963).
This quotation, slightly altered, is inscribed on a plaque in the stairwell of the pedestal of the Statue of Liberty: They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.

