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Old Dec 18, 2006 | 11:59 pm
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Very recent disturbing experience

Hi we just returned from Europe holiday returning to Australia via Hong Kong. We flew two intra UK flights with BMI and Easyjet and London to Hong Kong with Cathay (all last two weeeks).

With all the focus on liquids we were able to travel all these sectors with three knives (cheese and tomato knifes - very sharp and a butter knife blunt) mistakenly packed in carry on.

we were horrified that we had done this and even mor horrified and very disturbed that it was not picked up.
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Old Dec 19, 2006 | 12:07 am
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Why did you not turn yourself in to the authorities? If you had, who knows what the consequences would be.

Aren't such items available in-flight anyway?

They miss/skip over 6oz containers too of liquids and gels too, despite the rules.
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Old Dec 19, 2006 | 12:26 am
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Originally Posted by GUWonder

They miss/skip over 6oz containers too of liquids and gels too, despite the rules.
I noticed this too! While they checked my washbag etc and found a couple of items (sachets of shower soap and shampoo from hotels) that I had completely forgotten about, I arrived in London (from New york) to discover two full (but small) bottles of liquids in a side compartment of my cabin bag. Later, on arriving back in the States (from London), I found another bottle in another side compartment! So much for security and x-rays.

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Old Dec 19, 2006 | 4:05 am
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At Shreveport airport my wife's bag was searched because she had a 3.25 ounce bottle of aftershave balm she had forgotten about. She was allowed to pass afetr it was put in a baggie. We then flew SHV-IAH-EWR-BFs. When we got home she discovered a 1lb jar of honey in the bag which had been searched by TSA!
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Originally Posted by d29971
Hi we just returned from Europe holiday returning to Australia via Hong Kong. We flew two intra UK flights with BMI and Easyjet and London to Hong Kong with Cathay (all last two weeeks).

With all the focus on liquids we were able to travel all these sectors with three knives (cheese and tomato knifes - very sharp and a butter knife blunt) mistakenly packed in carry on.

we were horrified that we had done this and even mor horrified and very disturbed that it was not picked up.
why were you horrified?

Knives are not a credible threat to aircraft and should be ignored.

It is only due to the gross incompetence of imbeciles like Kip Hawley and his asinine, cowardly predecessors that we have developed an irrational fear of sharp and pointy objects.

People who fear knives ought to consider getting some professional counseling. Sharpophobia is about as rational as being afraid of an asteroid crashing into the earth or finding a hypodermic in the coin return slot of a payphone.
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Old Dec 19, 2006 | 5:03 am
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Originally Posted by d29971
we were horrified that we had done this and even mor horrified and very disturbed that it was not picked up.
You should be glad that they didnt take these things away from you.
I dont think the knife or the bottle of water would do any harm to the
aircraft.

There are more dangerous things at the airport.... (like TSA policies)
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Old Dec 19, 2006 | 6:03 am
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This is one of the reasons that the liquid ban is such a conceptually flawed idea. It distracts security screeners, slows checkpoints, and aggravates travelers.

Above all, the ban is too hard to enforce. The undetected honey just showcases the flaws in the screening system.

If only we could convince the TSA and its European counterparts to focus on genuine threats.

But I'm preaching to the converted here.
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Old Dec 19, 2006 | 6:10 am
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Originally Posted by Mats
This is one of the reasons that the liquid ban is such a conceptually flawed idea. It distracts security screeners, slows checkpoints, and aggravates travelers.

Above all, the ban is too hard to enforce. The undetected honey just showcases the flaws in the screening system.

If only we could convince the TSA and its European counterparts to focus on genuine threats.

But I'm preaching to the converted here.

Yes you are. But there are still people left to be converted to common sense -- unfortunately that includes a great number of politicians and political appointees in charge of "security" who'd rather make plans to "go forward" than be seen as backtracking by scrapping the nonsense entirely.
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Wait, how did the tomato get through?
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Old Dec 19, 2006 | 6:59 am
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Originally Posted by skylady
Wait, how did the tomato get through?
Fruits & vegetables are allowed ... although customs elsewhere might take issue with them. But the OP didn't report that they took a tomato through; the OP reported taking through a tomato knife/knives.
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Old Dec 19, 2006 | 7:11 am
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Originally Posted by GUWonder
Fruits & vegetables are allowed ... although customs elsewhere might take issue with them. But the OP didn't report that they took a tomato through; the OP reported taking through a tomato knife/knives.
My bad, didn't quote the grin. Lighten up, it was a joke! Tomatoes are way too heavy to add to the baggie.
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Old Dec 19, 2006 | 7:14 am
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Originally Posted by skylady
My bad, didn't quote the grin..lighten up, it was a joke!
You say tomato, I say tomato, he says tomato. Do we need one knife or three tomato knives?
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Old Dec 19, 2006 | 7:19 am
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We now have very heavy knives onboard, bring on all your fruit!
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Old Dec 19, 2006 | 8:46 am
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Originally Posted by d29971
With all the focus on liquids we were able to travel all these sectors with three knives (cheese and tomato knifes - very sharp and a butter knife blunt) mistakenly packed in carry on.
Yeah, that's one of the side effects of the recent obsession with liquids. Other, possibly more dangerous items go undetected.

we were horrified that we had done this and even mor horrified and very disturbed that it was not picked up.
C'mon, horrified because of a cheese knife? Certainly not with the changed attitude toward hijackers since 9/11.

BTW, have you ever thought about the possibility that the 9/11-hijackers could actually have used more serious weaponry than just a few box cutters? After all, the witnesses are all dead, so we don't know for sure what happened on those planes...
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Old Dec 19, 2006 | 9:17 am
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While a knife is a deadly weapon, I agree with Spiff it isn't a threat as far as a hijacking is concerned.
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