When is a terrorist not a terrorist?
Oct 6, 2006 | 12:00 pm
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When is a terrorist not a terrorist?
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...toryId=6208236
Morning Edition, October 6, 2006 · Thirty years ago Friday, a Cuban airliner blew up in mid-air, killing all 73 people aboard. U.S. officials later concluded that a violently anti-Castro Cuban exile named Luis Posada Carriles helped plan the bombing. But Thursday the Justice Department refused to classify Posada, who is in jail for immigration violations, as a terrorist.
Oct 6, 2006 | 12:55 pm
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The real 'toothpaste bomb': http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB202/index.htm
Oct 6, 2006 | 8:41 pm
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Originally Posted by Telfes
Freedom fighter or terrorist -- it all depends on which side of the coin you look at.
I'm curious if this freedom fighter-terrorist's name is on a no-fly list in the US. Far more deserving to be there than most of the people who are hassled week in and week out by US government blacklists.
Oct 6, 2006 | 8:49 pm
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Originally Posted by Wally Bird
The real 'toothpaste bomb': http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB202/index.htm
Oct 6, 2006 | 8:59 pm
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When is a terrorist not a terrorist?
Er, when they died five years ago.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/5413462.stm
9/11 hijackers on US no-fly list
The no-fly list was drawn up after the 11 September attacks
A US no-fly list used to try to prevent terror attacks includes the names of 14 of the long-dead 11 September hijackers, US news channel CBS reports.
Jailed former Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein also features on the list, which has been seen by CBS's 60 Minutes programme.
The names of Bolivian president Evo Morales and Lebanon's parliamentary speaker, Nabih Berri, also appear.
A former FBI agent told the programme the list was assembled hastily.
The document lists 44,000 people banned from flying in the US, and was drawn up after the 2001 attacks on the US, the programme reports.
It includes names shared by thousands of people, such as Gary Smith, John Williams and Robert Johnson.
Continued here...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/5413462.stm
Er, when they died five years ago.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/5413462.stm
9/11 hijackers on US no-fly list
The no-fly list was drawn up after the 11 September attacks
A US no-fly list used to try to prevent terror attacks includes the names of 14 of the long-dead 11 September hijackers, US news channel CBS reports.
Jailed former Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein also features on the list, which has been seen by CBS's 60 Minutes programme.
The names of Bolivian president Evo Morales and Lebanon's parliamentary speaker, Nabih Berri, also appear.
A former FBI agent told the programme the list was assembled hastily.
The document lists 44,000 people banned from flying in the US, and was drawn up after the 2001 attacks on the US, the programme reports.
It includes names shared by thousands of people, such as Gary Smith, John Williams and Robert Johnson.
Continued here...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/5413462.stm
Oct 6, 2006 | 10:47 pm
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More on these US government blacklist blunders:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061007/...ror_watch_list
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061007/...ror_watch_list
Oct 6, 2006 | 11:04 pm
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When is a terrorist not a terrorist?
When it is a country, not a person.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...+coverup&hl=en
When it is a country, not a person.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...+coverup&hl=en
Oct 7, 2006 | 12:08 pm
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Originally Posted by justageek
Oh boy, did you even read the message you were responding to? No one was defending the 9/11 terrorists, merely observing that since they all died on 9/11, there is little point to putting their names on the "No-Fly List" !!!
Oct 7, 2006 | 12:16 pm
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Originally Posted by J-M
Wasn't responding to the post you are referencing. I was responding to the "one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter" general view in the thread.
There are many examples where one man's terrorist is perceived to be another man's freedom fighter. The Cuban noted above seems to be an example of that. Why is someone who materially participated in blowing up a civilian airliner not a terrorist? Shouldn't he be on the no-fly list?
Originally Posted by GUWonder
Many freedom fighters are/were not terrorists;, and many terrorists are/were not freedom fighters. Of course, A's freedom fighters/defence forces will tend to be perceived by B to be terrorists, while B's own freedom fighters/defence forces will tend not to be perceived in the same way despite engaging in actions that result in the same.
I'm curious if this freedom fighter-terrorist's name is on a no-fly list in the US. Far more deserving to be there than most of the people who are hassled week in and week out by US government blacklists.
I'm curious if this freedom fighter-terrorist's name is on a no-fly list in the US. Far more deserving to be there than most of the people who are hassled week in and week out by US government blacklists.
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Oct 7, 2006 | 12:44 pm
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Originally Posted by GUWonder
The Cuban noted above seems to be an example of that. Why is someone who materially participated in blowing up a civilian airliner not a terrorist? Shouldn't he be on the no-fly list?
Oct 7, 2006 | 12:46 pm
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Originally Posted by J-M
He certainly should be. I would not want him on my plane. Still doesn't excuse the "oh, we must be sensitive... maybe they have a reason... if only we can 'understand' them" crap.