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Psychocadet Sep 3, 2006 12:32 pm

TSA needs to ban more...
 
Yesterday, I was pleased to begin my annual trip to Myrtyle Beach (Catch the Spirit...!). But, when I go to the airport, I was shocked to see how lax security was. We all know that terrorsits are planning on killing us all using liquids so why was I able to observe the following:

One woman was writing a "get well" card (probably to some terrorist friend of hers whom our heroic troops shot in Iraq). What was she writing with? If you guessed a pencil.....BOOOM!!! You're dead! No, my brothers and sisters, the lady was not using a pencil, she was using a pen. And what, praytell, does a pen operate on? Ink. As we all know, ink is a liquid.

Then, I noticed one gentleman reading a book. Seems harmless to you, but this blind bombmaker was using reading glasses. Not only could the glasses be used to magnify light to the point it could blind the pilot or broken and used as a knife, but as any 4th grader will tell you, glass is a liquid. BOOM!!!

Speaking of fourth graders, those little jihadists sure have a lot of of runny noses and have to pee often. Do we know what is in their pee? What if the terrorists surgically gave them faux bladders filled with some dangerous liquid? Yeah, you guessed it.... BOOM!!!

In any event, we are not safe. If I can bring a pen aboard what is to stop me from bringing aboard a thermonuclear device? Think of the children, think of the snot-nosed childred.

I look forward you your input.

TierFlyer Sep 3, 2006 12:34 pm

"A Modest Proposal," eh?

justageek Sep 3, 2006 12:52 pm

Actually I could have sworn I read in another thread that FRA has banned pens for flights going to the US. No, really. I'm serious.

Traveller Sep 3, 2006 1:07 pm


Originally Posted by Psychocadet
I look forward you your input.

We need to fly naked and asleep. All the airlines/TSA needs to do is hire a few trustworthy anesthesiologists.

cpx Sep 3, 2006 1:22 pm


Originally Posted by Traveller
We need to fly naked and asleep. All the airlines/TSA needs to do is hire a few trustworthy anesthesiologists.


Since the crew/attendants are also people, that could be a risk too.
I think the flights should be operated by robots. Customers should be served
by robots and the customers should also be replaced by robots..
Problem solved!!! no human element.. and little risk.
:p

essxjay Sep 3, 2006 2:02 pm


Originally Posted by justageek
Actually I could have sworn I read in another thread that FRA has banned pens for flights going to the US. No, really. I'm serious.

Yep, saw that a while back, right after 8/10. Also 've read reports of gel pens being confiscated at U.S. checkpoints.

Home of the Brave, indeed. :(

Superguy Sep 3, 2006 5:52 pm


Originally Posted by essxjay
Yep, saw that a while back, right after 8/10. Also 've read reports of gel pens being confiscated at U.S. checkpoints.

Home of the Brave, indeed. :(

The pussification of American continues. :td:

PatrickHenry1775 Sep 3, 2006 7:05 pm

The G-man, G. Gordon Liddy, lectured back in the 1980's how a trained assassin could use #2 pencil to kill someone. The issue should not be TSA banning objects but rather more attention paid to individuals boarding airliners.

bordeauxboy Sep 3, 2006 7:21 pm


Originally Posted by PatrickHenry1775
The G-man, G. Gordon Liddy, lectured back in the 1980's how a trained assassin could use #2 pencil to kill someone. The issue should not be TSA banning objects but rather more attention paid to individuals boarding airliners.

But that would require a well thought out plan of action by the TSA. along with the use of well trained and intelligent screeners. Judging from the implementation of the liquid ban (now parents traveling with young children are the most dangerous travelers in the sky) and the widely divergent interpretations of what gels are, any such attempt would be a disaster.

Otherwise, I wholeheartedly agree :) .

PatrickHenry1775 Sep 3, 2006 7:28 pm


Originally Posted by bordeauxboy
But that would require a well thought out plan of action by the TSA. along with the use of well trained and intelligent screeners. Judging from the implementation of the liquid ban (now parents traveling with young children are the most dangerous travelers in the sky) and the widely divergent interpretations of what gels are, any such attempt would be a disaster.

Otherwise, I wholeheartedly agree :) .

That is my point. TSA is a knee-jerk reaction that only provides the illusion of security, by confiscating harmless objects at checkpoints.

BNA_flyer Sep 3, 2006 7:32 pm


Originally Posted by justageek
Actually I could have sworn I read in another thread that FRA has banned pens for flights going to the US. No, really. I'm serious.

I usually travel with one or more fountain pens, and have left them sitting in my desk at my client's office until there's some clarification of whether the (liquid) ink in my pens constitutes any risk greater than leaking all over my shirt. I'd hate to get to a checkpoint and have one of these, some of which are worth about half of my usual airline ticket, confiscated because the screener had never seen one or understood what it was. (I know, I should be carrying cheap ballpoints for just this eventuality. But I was stuck "away" when the big scare went down and haven't had a chance to run through my ink supply and bring them home yet.)

PatrickHenry1775 Sep 3, 2006 7:46 pm


Originally Posted by BNA_flyer
I usually travel with one or more fountain pens, and have left them sitting in my desk at my client's office until there's some clarification of whether the (liquid) ink in my pens constitutes any risk greater than leaking all over my shirt. I'd hate to get to a checkpoint and have one of these, some of which are worth about half of my usual airline ticket, confiscated because the screener had never seen one or understood what it was. (I know, I should be carrying cheap ballpoints for just this eventuality. But I was stuck "away" when the big scare went down and haven't had a chance to run through my ink supply and bring them home yet.)

Ball point pens a security risk - God, what has happened to the United States? This is just pathetic, when valuable pens are confiscated from Americans. The terrorists have apparently won. :(

Peetah Sep 3, 2006 8:58 pm

100% of all terrorist acts were caused by humans. I therefore propose that all humans be banned from all flights. Secondly, I propose that all human packed cargo be banned in case of a remote detonation of a well packed bomb. Thirdly, since the plane was built by humans, who knows if the plane is really secure. We should only fly planes engineered and built solely by machines. Finally, humans could be monitoring this conversation, therefore we must eliminate them.

Skynet is online, they just don't know it yet.... :p

PatrickHenry1775 Sep 3, 2006 9:03 pm


Originally Posted by Peetah
100% of all terrorist acts were caused by humans. I therefore propose that all humans be banned from all flights. Secondly, I propose that all human packed cargo be banned in case of a remote detonation of a well packed bomb. Thirdly, since the plane was built by humans, who knows if the plane is really secure. We should only fly planes engineered and built solely by machines. Finally, humans could be monitoring this conversation, therefore we must eliminate them.

Skynet is online, they just don't know it yet.... :p

Where is John Connor?

Peetah Sep 3, 2006 9:04 pm


Originally Posted by PatrickHenry1775
Ball point pens a security risk - God, what has happened to the United States? This is just pathetic, when valuable pens are confiscated from Americans. The terrorists have apparently won. :(

During post September 11, pre TSA, some "citizen screeners" wanted to confiscate a Congressional Medal of Honor from a real hero. If our "citizens" don't know our own medals, history, or heroes we are in pathetic shape.

For further info: http://www.snopes.com/military/medal.htm


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