TSA needs to ban more...
 

Yesterday, I was pleased to begin my annual trip to Myrtyle Beach (Catch the Spirit...!). But, when I go to the airport, I was shocked to see how lax security was. We all know that terrorsits are planning on killing us all using liquids so why was I able to observe the following:

One woman was writing a "get well" card (probably to some terrorist friend of hers whom our heroic troops shot in Iraq). What was she writing with? If you guessed a pencil.....BOOOM!!! You're dead! No, my brothers and sisters, the lady was not using a pencil, she was using a pen. And what, praytell, does a pen operate on? Ink. As we all know, ink is a liquid.

Then, I noticed one gentleman reading a book. Seems harmless to you, but this blind bombmaker was using reading glasses. Not only could the glasses be used to magnify light to the point it could blind the pilot or broken and used as a knife, but as any 4th grader will tell you, glass is a liquid. BOOM!!!

Speaking of fourth graders, those little jihadists sure have a lot of of runny noses and have to pee often. Do we know what is in their pee? What if the terrorists surgically gave them faux bladders filled with some dangerous liquid? Yeah, you guessed it.... BOOM!!!

In any event, we are not safe. If I can bring a pen aboard what is to stop me from bringing aboard a thermonuclear device? Think of the children, think of the snot-nosed childred.

I look forward you your input.

"A Modest Proposal," eh?

Actually I could have sworn I read in another thread that FRA has banned pens for flights going to the US. No, really. I'm serious.

We need to fly naked and asleep. All the airlines/TSA needs to do is hire a few trustworthy anesthesiologists.

Since the crew/attendants are also people, that could be a risk too.
I think the flights should be operated by robots. Customers should be served
by robots and the customers should also be replaced by robots..
Problem solved!!! no human element.. and little risk.
:p

Yep, saw that a while back, right after 8/10. Also 've read reports of gel pens being confiscated at U.S. checkpoints.

Home of the Brave, indeed. :(

The pussification of American continues. :td:

The G-man, G. Gordon Liddy, lectured back in the 1980's how a trained assassin could use #2 pencil to kill someone. The issue should not be TSA banning objects but rather more attention paid to individuals boarding airliners.

But that would require a well thought out plan of action by the TSA. along with the use of well trained and intelligent screeners. Judging from the implementation of the liquid ban (now parents traveling with young children are the most dangerous travelers in the sky) and the widely divergent interpretations of what gels are, any such attempt would be a disaster.

Otherwise, I wholeheartedly agree :) .

That is my point. TSA is a knee-jerk reaction that only provides the illusion of security, by confiscating harmless objects at checkpoints.

I usually travel with one or more fountain pens, and have left them sitting in my desk at my client's office until there's some clarification of whether the (liquid) ink in my pens constitutes any risk greater than leaking all over my shirt. I'd hate to get to a checkpoint and have one of these, some of which are worth about half of my usual airline ticket, confiscated because the screener had never seen one or understood what it was. (I know, I should be carrying cheap ballpoints for just this eventuality. But I was stuck "away" when the big scare went down and haven't had a chance to run through my ink supply and bring them home yet.)

Ball point pens a security risk - God, what has happened to the United States? This is just pathetic, when valuable pens are confiscated from Americans. The terrorists have apparently won. :(

100% of all terrorist acts were caused by humans. I therefore propose that all humans be banned from all flights. Secondly, I propose that all human packed cargo be banned in case of a remote detonation of a well packed bomb. Thirdly, since the plane was built by humans, who knows if the plane is really secure. We should only fly planes engineered and built solely by machines. Finally, humans could be monitoring this conversation, therefore we must eliminate them.

Skynet is online, they just don't know it yet.... :p

Where is John Connor?

During post September 11, pre TSA, some "citizen screeners" wanted to confiscate a Congressional Medal of Honor from a real hero. If our "citizens" don't know our own medals, history, or heroes we are in pathetic shape.

For further info: http://www.snopes.com/military/medal.htm

Joe Foss, a WWII fighter ace, had one of his medals confiscated just after 9/11/01. BTW, the airport in Sioux Falls, South Dakota is named after Joe Foss. I guess he planned to be a terrorist since 1942-1945 :rolleyes:

You know terrorists are VERY patient, right? This guy could have been planning for 60 years ... :rolleyes:

In the eyes of the Japanese, he was a terrorist during World War 2...... maybe he should be thrown into jail for carrying the medal of the enemy. Hrm...

I think I need to stop watching SciFi films involving time travel.

The Final Countdown ... :)

Then the terrorists will simply swallow what they need to make a bomb. They could have the components combine automatically in their gut. To be safe, TSA should make passengers check in a day early to assure that no terrorist is concealing anything anywhere in their entire digestive tract. Colonoscopies for all. :D

Seriously, there is no way to protect from everything. The terrorists are looking to use any holes in the security. Air cargo is not checked and could cause a major accident, but nothing has been done to address such issues. After a certain level of safety is assured, there are always risks in anything one does. There are no assurances about anything.

It's too bad the rest of America doesn't believe you.

Preaching to the choir. Perhaps TSA will administer enemas to passengers before stripping them, sedating them, and then binding them to prevent disturbances from passengers. Of course, there is still the issue of cargo, but passengers do not see that, so who cares...

A little OT here, but why hasn't there been a major accident with air cargo?

Luck, Divine Providence, Islamic wacko terrorists who try to hatch Wile E. Coyote-type suicide plots instead of straightforward cargo bombs,...

Take your pick. I have a horrible feeling it is just a matter of time before a plane is destroyed this way.

Actually, there was an accident involving air cargo....
the ValuJet aircraft that crashed into the Florida Everglades some
years back. I believe there were oxygen cannisters that caught
fire in the cargo hold, causing smoke to fill the cockpit and led
to the crash of the aircraft. Not a terrorist act, but an air disaster
nonetheless.

Oh yes, Casino was on again just this week. Don't ever annoy anyone called 'Nicky'.

Well, I don't know about him, either. :(

All pens have been banned for passage through all security checkpoints in the UK since August 10 due to liquid ink. No, I'm not joking.

They should also ban all glass products, since it's technically a liquid as well. :rolleyes:

Didn't Bush advocate remote controls that could be used to take over flying a plane in the days after 9/11? :eek:

That is downright frightening.

It's not even like the security folks have considered that a pen could be filled with liquid Sarin (if they ever make THAT realization, we're doomed to no carry-ons, backscatter X-ray, and full grope-downs). No, they banned pens because they have liquid. :(

And sadly, I think that a pen could barlely hold enough flammable material to make a sparkler.

Yes, the Administration looked into this.

The idea was certifiable.

Unfortunately, such a system would not be certifiable. FAA certification that is.

Safe from EVERYTHING
 

But grasshopper, you forgot one thing: Robots are lubricated by oil, and oil is a Forbidden Liquid. :D

Seems like TSA wants to safety us from every consequence that can bring down a plane except an Act of God. Hmmm, perhaps they can help there, too. Just get TSA to declare God a liquid or a gel and ban him from the heavens below FL60? :D

Ummm ... could it be perhaps that there are really not that many terrorist out there? The most dangerous we seem to have captured were a few guys from Detroit buying up cell phones and some loonies in Florida supplied with boots etc. by an agent provocateur. Even the one in London who were supposed to be making the "mix it yourself" liquid bombs seem not to have been anywhere near ready to knowing to make such a device and were still trying - on their own - to figure that out.

Hysteria! We are protecting against a largely non-existent threat. And when a competent bunch comes along, they will not have difficulty penetrating our security charade. Hint: the bombs will not be in shoes or an 80 yo's medication.

As long as the total amount of lubricant is under 2 floz and has a valid
prescription from the maintenance professional, it should be fine. :D

TSA needs to ban
 

....its own agents a/k/a officers.

Pray that the TSA does not see this movie: http://imdb.com/title/tt0104743/

fduvall

Ummm... no. Terrorists don't want to blow up a cargo plane as it wouldn't have as much impact as blowing up a plane with 100+ people on board. Its all about impact.

Cargo plane blowing up - 3-6 pilots on board.. Passenger plane - 100+ people.

Ban the Beans
 

Tagline: Water isn't always safe

Perhaps they did see it. Management forgot to tell them it was a Hollywood FICTION movie, not a TSA documentary. :td:

Hmm, a substance that people ingest and then blow up. Why has not TSA banned the beans yet? :D