"Children can identify us"
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Disturbing.
FAM should...
1. Not carry or show a badge
2. Dress like other passengers (to the extent possible, within reason)
3. Not be known to the airline (just look like a ticketed passenger on the manifest)
4. Board with the other passengers in their zone
5. Enter the secure area of the airport either by other means, or have some way of getting their weapons through in their carry on
6. It would be best for them to go through the security lines with the other pax. Maybe a marked carry on or some kind of discreet signal to TSA that they are FAMs.
FAM should...
1. Not carry or show a badge
2. Dress like other passengers (to the extent possible, within reason)
3. Not be known to the airline (just look like a ticketed passenger on the manifest)
4. Board with the other passengers in their zone
5. Enter the secure area of the airport either by other means, or have some way of getting their weapons through in their carry on
6. It would be best for them to go through the security lines with the other pax. Maybe a marked carry on or some kind of discreet signal to TSA that they are FAMs.
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Originally Posted by etch5895
1. Not carry . . . a badge
I agree with the rest, but, not carry a badge? Why?
How are they to prove they are who they say they are should there be an incident? They have ID cards, but those can be easily faked. ID + badge is seemingly the best way for them to ID themselves.
#5
Join Date: Jul 2005
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Originally Posted by etch5895
Disturbing.
FAM should...
1. Not carry or show a badge
2. Dress like other passengers (to the extent possible, within reason)
3. Not be known to the airline (just look like a ticketed passenger on the manifest)
4. Board with the other passengers in their zone
5. Enter the secure area of the airport either by other means, or have some way of getting their weapons through in their carry on
6. It would be best for them to go through the security lines with the other pax. Maybe a marked carry on or some kind of discreet signal to TSA that they are FAMs.
FAM should...
1. Not carry or show a badge
2. Dress like other passengers (to the extent possible, within reason)
3. Not be known to the airline (just look like a ticketed passenger on the manifest)
4. Board with the other passengers in their zone
5. Enter the secure area of the airport either by other means, or have some way of getting their weapons through in their carry on
6. It would be best for them to go through the security lines with the other pax. Maybe a marked carry on or some kind of discreet signal to TSA that they are FAMs.
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Originally Posted by Cholula
The badge is pretty cool.
I've never saw one and, actually, I hope I never see one in person.
I've never saw one and, actually, I hope I never see one in person.
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Originally Posted by docmonkey
Except for number 2 and 4, these ideas create new vulnerabilities that probably outweigh any positive effect on passenger safety that the FAMs arguably have. I don't even no where to start.
1. They don't flash them to the passengers now. Flight crews should know who the armed passengers are.
2. Of course! Would you want them in a FAM uniform?
3. Never happen. Even today LEO on business with weapons check in with the flight crew. This is good.
4. Yes. They would not attract attention that way.
5. They do now.
6. Not sure how they get to the secured area but it happens today somehow.
They just need to be a little less obvious.
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Originally Posted by etch5895
FAM should...
1. Not carry or show a badge
1. Not carry or show a badge
3. Not be known to the airline (just look like a ticketed passenger on the manifest)
Probably don't want to send an FA over to say, "sir, do you have a gun?" in that situation. Since you don't want FAMs to have any ID, even if the FA said that a legit FAM couldn't prove that he was legit. You also don't think they should be listed on the manifest. If I'm a pilot and I hear a pax has a gun and we have no idea whether he's a terrorist or FAM, I'm putting the plane down right away.
6. It would be best for them to go through the security lines with the other pax. Maybe a marked carry on or some kind of discreet signal to TSA that they are FAMs.
Last edited by Doppy; Jul 21, 2006 at 8:51 pm
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Originally Posted by Cholula
The badge is pretty cool.
I've never saw one and, actually, I hope I never see one in person.
I've never saw one and, actually, I hope I never see one in person.

