Exiting the 'secure' area
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Join Date: Jun 2005
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Easy to do ILLEGALLY in some places. Hilo Airport, for example, offers breathtaking eye-candy shots of the flora outside for paxs in the sterile area. Wander too far, through a no-door/no signs posted spot and you done been OUTED. No recourse but to have an armed marine escort you back into the sterile (and UNposted-as-such!) area. My first hint that TSA might not be the brightest bulb in the marquee. Unbelievable THEN. SOP now, as I'm understanding...
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Originally Posted by Sydneysider
I noticed private security folks at Dulles (TSA were there formerly) startin in late May.
#8
Join Date: Jan 2006
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I was once delayed like 10 hours, so I thought I would have a little fun.I decided to go through security a lot getting diffrent screeners, and giving them a hard time about taking off my shoes. (I know, I have no life.)
I was surprised because I would keep leaving then, come back, and leave again, etc...............................
The guy watching the exit was like are you okay because this is about your seventh time leaving. :-) It was not a TSA agent, but a private security person. Goes to show you that they may be doing a better job then the TSA.
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Originally Posted by deltajfk
I was once delayed like 10 hours, so I thought I would have a little fun.I decided to go through security a lot getting diffrent screeners, and giving them a hard time about taking off my shoes. (I know, I have no life.)
I was surprised because I would keep leaving then, come back, and leave again, etc...............................
The guy watching the exit was like are you okay because this is about your seventh time leaving. :-) It was not a TSA agent, but a private security person. Goes to show you that they may be doing a better job then the TSA.
TSA should have caught that. someone probing the security checkpoints for
holes in the system would be doing exactly the same. If they didnt stop you
or question you.. I dont think they are doing a good job. (as if they ever did)
^ to the private security person!
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Join Date: Jul 2006
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nop here at SFO its always one of us !! grant it we are not TSA owned but a private compny trained vigourusly by the tsa mobile screening fource and we enfource all ssi and sop policies as federalized tsa!! we even have very similar uniorms!!! but the exit is always manned by us!!! we get highly trained for this position!!
the only poblem we get is that the passengers exiting think we are mean because we are not supposed to talk or answer questions so they think we ignore them!!! but its not that jejeje we just need to be alert at all times!!
but I can tell you that I was surprised and very diapointed about the tsa exit agent at SJC!! the lady there was also helping out with the passengers bags geting into the xray leaving the rope open and unnatending the exit w/her back to us(I was dropping off my brother)if we ever did anything like that we would be fired.....not good!!!!!!!!!
the only poblem we get is that the passengers exiting think we are mean because we are not supposed to talk or answer questions so they think we ignore them!!! but its not that jejeje we just need to be alert at all times!!
but I can tell you that I was surprised and very diapointed about the tsa exit agent at SJC!! the lady there was also helping out with the passengers bags geting into the xray leaving the rope open and unnatending the exit w/her back to us(I was dropping off my brother)if we ever did anything like that we would be fired.....not good!!!!!!!!!
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My favorite is the automatic return-attempt-detector at the bottom of the escalator at LAS (next to a couple of baggage carousels). For fun, walk towards the bottom of the escalator.
"BZZT! YOU ARE ATTEMPTING TO ENTER A SECURE AREA. GO BACK DOWN THE ESCALATOR AT ONCE...."
Repeat until baggage arrives.
"BZZT! YOU ARE ATTEMPTING TO ENTER A SECURE AREA. GO BACK DOWN THE ESCALATOR AT ONCE...."
Repeat until baggage arrives.
#12
Join Date: Jan 2005
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Originally Posted by mbstone
My favorite is the automatic return-attempt-detector at the bottom of the escalator at LAS (next to a couple of baggage carousels). For fun, walk towards the bottom of the escalator.
"BZZT! YOU ARE ATTEMPTING TO ENTER A SECURE AREA. GO BACK DOWN THE ESCALATOR AT ONCE...."
Repeat until baggage arrives.
"BZZT! YOU ARE ATTEMPTING TO ENTER A SECURE AREA. GO BACK DOWN THE ESCALATOR AT ONCE...."
Repeat until baggage arrives.
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Originally Posted by cpx
TSA should have caught that. someone probing the security checkpoints for
holes in the system would be doing exactly the same. If they didnt stop you
or question you.. I dont think they are doing a good job. (as if they ever did)
^ to the private security person!
holes in the system would be doing exactly the same. If they didnt stop you
or question you.. I dont think they are doing a good job. (as if they ever did)
^ to the private security person!
Here's the REAL question you should ask: did you successfully clear security each and every time? If so, then what's the problem?
By the way, this would be a dumb way to probe a checkpoint. The real bad guys want to keep a low profile instead of draw attention unnecessarily.
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Originally Posted by Bart
Here's the REAL question you should ask: did you successfully clear security each and every time? If so, then what's the problem?
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They were TSA at SLC Terminal 1 yesterday.
Thought it was overkill having 2 of them there though as the exit from terminal 1 is pretty narrow.
Thought it was overkill having 2 of them there though as the exit from terminal 1 is pretty narrow.

