Laptops...out!!!
#31
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Originally Posted by jfe
Also in http://flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=471074
And I never got a really good answer either
And I never got a really good answer either

I don't really know how to expound on that answer to make the reasoning any clearer. Perhaps Cliffs Notes are in order:
(Laptop + bag w/electronic paraphernalia = cluttered image) = bag check.
(Laptop alone = clear image) + (bag w/electronic paraphernalia alone = clear image) = no bag check.
#32
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Originally Posted by FWAAA
Unfortunately, aside from the situation pointed out by Bart in that thread (that some laptop bags are just too cluttered to discern all the scary things they hold), there really is no good answer for why my expensive computer cannot pass thru the x-ray machine in its protective padded case. My laptop bag does not contain all the sundry scary things that necessitate it being unprotected as it gets its radiation, but that's not how the brain-trust at the TSA works.
#33
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Originally Posted by htb
I would like to add the "Camcorders Out!" (but it's OK to keep the almost identical looking digital camera in the bag). And with compact digital cameras you can shoot video as well. I get frustrated each time...
Anyone here can explain to me the focus on camcorders?
HTB.
Anyone here can explain to me the focus on camcorders?
HTB.
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Originally Posted by htb
I would like to add the "Camcorders Out!" (but it's OK to keep the almost identical looking digital camera in the bag). And with compact digital cameras you can shoot video as well. I get frustrated each time...
Anyone here can explain to me the focus on camcorders?
HTB.
Anyone here can explain to me the focus on camcorders?
HTB.
#35
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As noted above it is because of what the laptop can hide under it.
Here is an interesting scanned image for you to enjoy...
It is a laptop, the image you see looks to be a gun, the reality is it is the heat sync.
http://www.zjstech.net/~library/2290...0Gun-img-3.JPG
http://www.zjstech.net/~library/2290...20(Medium).jpg
http://www.zjstech.net/~library/2290...20(Medium).jpg
Here is an interesting scanned image for you to enjoy...
It is a laptop, the image you see looks to be a gun, the reality is it is the heat sync.
http://www.zjstech.net/~library/2290...0Gun-img-3.JPG
http://www.zjstech.net/~library/2290...20(Medium).jpg
http://www.zjstech.net/~library/2290...20(Medium).jpg
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Originally Posted by SJCFlyerLG
But oddly enough, the rest of the world doesn't seem to share this concern.
There's no yelling or barking that laptops have to come out and no shoe carnival either.
At the checkpoints they also conduct ETD swabbing / screening, but it is done at random, it is done efficiently, and they're polite about it. Last time I had an ETD swab done the screener just asked for my Surname, wrote it into a log, did the ETD swab, and I was on my way.
No requirement to show ID at checkpoints either as meeters/greeters can go through security in the domestic terminals - plus if travelling with carry-on only it's just as easy to check-in airside in the lounge (Qantas Club). Just hand them your FF card at the Qantas Club, they swipe it, and out come your boarding passes.
Travelling around Australia is a breeze and relatively hassle-free compared to the states.
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Originally Posted by htb
I would like to add the "Camcorders Out!" (but it's OK to keep the almost identical looking digital camera in the bag). And with compact digital cameras you can shoot video as well. I get frustrated each time...
Anyone here can explain to me the focus on camcorders?
Anyone here can explain to me the focus on camcorders?
SDF_Traveler
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Originally Posted by Coastiejoe
As noted above it is because of what the laptop can hide under it.
Here is an interesting scanned image for you to enjoy...
It is a laptop, the image you see looks to be a gun, the reality is it is the heat sync.
http://www.zjstech.net/~library/2290...0Gun-img-3.JPG
http://www.zjstech.net/~library/2290...20(Medium).jpg
http://www.zjstech.net/~library/2290...20(Medium).jpg
Here is an interesting scanned image for you to enjoy...
It is a laptop, the image you see looks to be a gun, the reality is it is the heat sync.
http://www.zjstech.net/~library/2290...0Gun-img-3.JPG
http://www.zjstech.net/~library/2290...20(Medium).jpg
http://www.zjstech.net/~library/2290...20(Medium).jpg
I personally think it'd be dang near impossible to get a gun in a laptop. With most laptops being less than 1.5" thick, it'd be really difficult to get a gun in one of those without it being obvious.
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Originally Posted by JTK
I just recently came back from Germany and was asked to remove my laptop in Munich and again in London (LHR). I left the secure area in LHR (had a long layover) and had to re-enter the security area. First time I have had to do that outside the US.
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Originally Posted by Superguy
Yes, I can see how it looks like a gun. However, I don't see how whether it's in the bag or not actually makes a difference in how that heatsink looks.
I personally think it'd be dang near impossible to get a gun in a laptop. With most laptops being less than 1.5" thick, it'd be really difficult to get a gun in one of those without it being obvious.
I personally think it'd be dang near impossible to get a gun in a laptop. With most laptops being less than 1.5" thick, it'd be really difficult to get a gun in one of those without it being obvious.
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Originally Posted by GUWonder
Concerns about explosives or bomb components perhaps?
Filling a bay with explosives is much more plausible.
#42
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Originally Posted by Superguy
Yes, I can see how it looks like a gun. However, I don't see how whether it's in the bag or not actually makes a difference in how that heatsink looks.
I personally think it'd be dang near impossible to get a gun in a laptop. With most laptops being less than 1.5" thick, it'd be really difficult to get a gun in one of those without it being obvious.
I personally think it'd be dang near impossible to get a gun in a laptop. With most laptops being less than 1.5" thick, it'd be really difficult to get a gun in one of those without it being obvious.
If it is out of the bag, it eliminates any possibility for an item to be hidden.
As far as hiding a gun in a laptop, for the most part I agree with you. In fact, I think it would be hard enough to hide that it would deter from the effort to do so. We carry enough other stuff on us on a day to day basis that would be much easier to high a weapon in.
#45
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Originally Posted by Bart
What's supposed to be separated are the old-fashioned VHS or Beta camcorders (the ones we rarely see anymore) and NOT the compact ones we see today. Many screeners misinterpret this procedure.
Last edited by myrgirl; Jun 3, 2006 at 4:24 pm

