I-C-E In Case of Emergency
Jul 31, 2005 | 8:36 pm
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Originally Posted by JS
They'll find out eventually. What's the rush?
The fire department in the jurisdiction I worked has been promoting this program. Link to local news story. I think it's a good idea. I've worked with both hospitals and the coroner over the years, and can tell you first hand it can be difficult to track down relatives under any circumstance. The ICE concept has the potential to expedite that process.
Jul 31, 2005 | 9:36 pm
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Originally Posted by SDF_Traveler
While on the topic of travel & security, for those who travel internationally we should be aware the emergency #, the equivalent of 911 here in the states, varies depending on where you go - In the United Kingdom it's 999, in other nations it's 000, etc. It's always good to know what the emergency # is before one goes abroad.
Co-incidentially, 112 is the European Union standard for emergency services (http://europa.eu.int/comm/environmen...2surv-2001.pdf)
Here's a website with a list of emergency numbers worldwide:
http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclop...lephone-number
Last edited by Peetah; Jul 31, 2005 at 9:42 pm
Jul 31, 2005 | 9:44 pm
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Originally Posted by SDF_Traveler
Have you ever been an emergecy first responder?
I used to do National Ski Patrol which put me as an emergecy first responder. While most injuries were minor (i.e. nosebleeds, cuts, broken bones, an occasional diabetic problem, dehydration), I have encountered serious, life threatening injuries and one problem was locating a family member. I worked directly with EMS when we had individuals who needed to go to hospital, who faced the same issue.
If you were injured, specifically a life threatening injury, would you want someone to know as you are being taken to hospital by helicopter? It's also important first responders talk to someone who knows the patient to get a history (any medical problems, i.e. diabetic, allergies, any medications, etc).
I was National Ski Patrol before cell phones became extremely popular (I had an old analog one at the time and would get $300+ monthly bills for roaming) - now that almost everyone has a mobile, it is a great idea.
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I used to do National Ski Patrol which put me as an emergecy first responder. While most injuries were minor (i.e. nosebleeds, cuts, broken bones, an occasional diabetic problem, dehydration), I have encountered serious, life threatening injuries and one problem was locating a family member. I worked directly with EMS when we had individuals who needed to go to hospital, who faced the same issue.
If you were injured, specifically a life threatening injury, would you want someone to know as you are being taken to hospital by helicopter? It's also important first responders talk to someone who knows the patient to get a history (any medical problems, i.e. diabetic, allergies, any medications, etc).
I was National Ski Patrol before cell phones became extremely popular (I had an old analog one at the time and would get $300+ monthly bills for roaming) - now that almost everyone has a mobile, it is a great idea.
SDF_Traveler
I am not saying having an emergency contact listed is a bad idea, but it doesnt seem like it would help EMS at all.
Aug 1, 2005 | 3:12 am
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Originally Posted by Peetah
Dialing 112 on any GSM phone will forward the call to the local emergency system if one exists. Even if the SIM card is missing or the phone is locked, you'll be able to dial this number.
Co-incidentially, 112 is the European Union standard for emergency services (http://europa.eu.int/comm/environmen...2surv-2001.pdf)
Here's a website with a list of emergency numbers worldwide:
http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclop...lephone-number
Co-incidentially, 112 is the European Union standard for emergency services (http://europa.eu.int/comm/environmen...2surv-2001.pdf)
Here's a website with a list of emergency numbers worldwide:
http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclop...lephone-number
Aug 1, 2005 | 1:28 pm
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The entry for ICE should start with "A" or "AA" so it is the first entry someone sees in your phone book, such as "A Lost Cell Phone" (my home number). So I will add, "A Emergency Contact" (I won't assume the person finding my cell phone understands "ICE").
Aug 1, 2005 | 5:43 pm
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Originally Posted by Peetah
Dialing 112 on any GSM phone will forward the call to the local emergency system if one exists. Even if the SIM card is missing or the phone is locked, you'll be able to dial this number.
Co-incidentially, 112 is the European Union standard for emergency services (http://europa.eu.int/comm/environmen...2surv-2001.pdf)
Here's a website with a list of emergency numbers worldwide:
http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclop...lephone-number
Co-incidentially, 112 is the European Union standard for emergency services (http://europa.eu.int/comm/environmen...2surv-2001.pdf)
Here's a website with a list of emergency numbers worldwide:
http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclop...lephone-number
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Aug 1, 2005 | 5:46 pm
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Aug 1, 2005 | 5:57 pm
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Originally Posted by Lehava
I would be VERY surprised if first responders would even be able to look in the phone. As an EMT we were trained not even to open the persons purse or wallet. That was not our role and not even legal. We had to give the personal effects to the cops and they handled it from there for legal reasons. So if we couldnt check the wallet for who our patient was, how could we go in and search their personal phone list? Not to mention in a true emergency that is the LAST thing I am going to be doing, figuring out how their cell phone works.
I am not saying having an emergency contact listed is a bad idea, but it doesnt seem like it would help EMS at all.
I am not saying having an emergency contact listed is a bad idea, but it doesnt seem like it would help EMS at all.
In rare cases, we had no problem (and neither did EMS, who would greet us up at the lodge by ambulance or helicopter) doing a quick search of an individual for ID. This was a small town and EMS was city/county operated.
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Aug 1, 2005 | 7:11 pm
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It made the news in Anchorage, AK this afternoon. The 5 o'clock report is having a little blurb about it right now and a fellow from the fire department is encouraging people to have more than one contact, ICE 1, ICE 2, etc. Word travels fast.
Aug 2, 2005 | 11:03 pm
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Considering that a good many of us travel to countries where English is not the primary language, it would wise to translate "emergency contact" into the native language and program that into our phone before we travel.
It's not necessary to be "grammatically correct" because of the limited memory of a mobile, you just need to provide enough of an entry to get the thought across.
It's not necessary to be "grammatically correct" because of the limited memory of a mobile, you just need to provide enough of an entry to get the thought across.