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Old Mar 13, 2005 | 7:34 pm
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Checking and re-checking of boarding passes?

I've been flying between IAH and CLT for 7 or 8 months and I have noticed increased checking of boarding passes at CLT over the months. First it was one check with the ID; then it quickly became one check with the ID and one check without the ID; then it recently became one check with the ID, one check without the ID, and having to show the boarding pass when walking through the metal detector. Last Thursday, there was one check with the ID, another without the ID, then another check by the person helping expedite bins/baggage on the belt and finally a check when walking through the metal detector.

Is there something new going on here?
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Old Mar 13, 2005 | 8:48 pm
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Originally Posted by FemaleFlyer
I've been flying between IAH and CLT for 7 or 8 months and I have noticed increased checking of boarding passes at CLT over the months. First it was one check with the ID; then it quickly became one check with the ID and one check without the ID; then it recently became one check with the ID, one check without the ID, and having to show the boarding pass when walking through the metal detector. Last Thursday, there was one check with the ID, another without the ID, then another check by the person helping expedite bins/baggage on the belt and finally a check when walking through the metal detector.

Is there something new going on here?
As somebody explained on another thread, this appears to be a way to employ folks who would otherwise be jobless.
I hadn't heard this explanation before but since I can't think of any other rational reason for checking a BP 4 times within 30', I guess I have to agree with the OP's conclusion.
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Old Mar 14, 2005 | 1:57 am
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Originally Posted by Cholula
As somebody explained on another thread, this appears to be a way to employ folks who would otherwise be jobless.
I hadn't heard this explanation before but since I can't think of any other rational reason for checking a BP 4 times within 30', I guess I have to agree with the OP's conclusion.
I brought this topic up at work the other night while talking with a screener.

Basically, the multiple checks are done to ensure that nobody with the dreaded SSSS designation gets through without getting secondaried.

However, I think Cholula's interpretation may be closer to the truth...
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Old Mar 14, 2005 | 9:06 am
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Four BP checks...unbelievable.

If we need four checks for four letters written boldly in different places on a BP, how many are needed for the bombs and knives?
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Old Mar 14, 2005 | 9:29 am
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Originally Posted by LessO2
Four BP checks...unbelievable.

If we need four checks for four letters written boldly in different places on a BP, how many are needed for the bombs and knives?
Indeed... if that's the excuse being used, I can't imagine it engenders much faith in the ability to find things that truly might be a problem. I can hear someone excusing it now as, "Well, if it prevents the inconvenience of an evacuated terminal due to a missed SSSS..." More to the point is what good the SSSS does, particularly in the way it is assigned currently.
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Old Mar 14, 2005 | 10:10 am
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Originally Posted by Cholula
As somebody explained on another thread, this appears to be a way to employ folks who would otherwise be jobless.
You know, Cholula, I expect better than this from a moderator.

Now, to answer the question in my somewhat limited way. Here, we check BP twice after the ticket checker does his/her thing. The loader checks the BP in order to see if the person's items need to be switched to an orange selectee bin and the metal detector person checks to see if they need to send the person to secondary or not. Pretty simple really.
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Old Mar 14, 2005 | 10:10 am
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If checking IDs and Boarding Passes once or twice increases security, we should check them a dozen times. Can't be too safe.
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Old Mar 14, 2005 | 10:53 am
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Originally Posted by myrgirl
You know, Cholula, I expect better than this from a moderator.

Sorry myrgirl....I was posting as a FlyerTalker, who has a great deal of interest and opinions on this subject, and not as a moderator.
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Originally Posted by TSASCRNR
Private ticket checkers do the initial check...

then along the lines fails communication with "ID CHECKED"...

Most of the time its a hand me down... one hands to another who hands to another for a check. As the person is doing a hand me down, they might take a look real quick.
Perhaps instead of taking multiple quick looks at the boarding pass, the crack TSA screeners could look at shoes to determine if they are non-profile instead of the "recommendation" rigamarole?

But on a more sober note, if we were actually serious about security, this would be the opportunity to engage the passenger in brief conversation, to determine if the passenger should be screened more thoroughly. Wishful thinking, given the apparent shoddy training in TSA that results in so many deviations from a relatively simple SOP. Expecting the current bunch to glean useful information from such interaction and then exercise sound judgment unfortunately appears to be a pipe dream.

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Old Mar 14, 2005 | 11:51 am
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I would have to

agree with many of you here. I recently flew to OH for a funeral and had 4 pass/ID checks before clearing the checkpoint. 3 were within 40 feet. After the funeral my brother gave me a gas powered remote controlled helicopter that belonged to a friend of ours who had passed away. I mailed it back to my house rather than have the TSA keep it as HAZMAT It had not been flown for a long time, but I'm sure someone would have found an excuse to take it.
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Old Mar 14, 2005 | 7:33 pm
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Hmmm

Originally Posted by 3Greyhounds
I brought this topic up at work the other night while talking with a screener.

Basically, the multiple checks are done to ensure that nobody with the dreaded SSSS designation gets through without getting secondaried.

However, I think Cholula's interpretation may be closer to the truth...
I've never had an SSSS designation, but I've been taken to secondary in CLT as a random (twice) and a retaliatory (once) screening. They give you a yellow card (actually 8 x 10 laminated) that you are supposed to show to everyone, so that your bags go into special bins and you wait for secondary. Maybe they have stopped giving those to the SSSS designees and are expecting the people helping move your baggage through to verify a pax is not an SSSS designee? I don't know, but the one I went through on Thursday was much less busy than the one I usually go through, so Cholula might have a point. I switched security points that day because the line was so much shorter.
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Old Mar 14, 2005 | 9:21 pm
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Originally Posted by exerda
I can hear someone excusing it now as, "Well, if it prevents the inconvenience of an evacuated terminal due to a missed SSSS..."

That's exactly the excuse that was given!
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