TSA Security Locks
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TSA Security Locks
I purchased some TSA approved "Travel Sentry" security locks last year when they first came out (4 digit combo locks that have the special key for the TSA to open them up if they want to inspect the bag).
Sent an email off to the TSA today because they've not been doing a good job at either GEG or LAX with closing the lock correctly at either LAX (terminal 3, Alaska) or GEG. Two of the locks have been lost because they fell off in transit in the open position, and I've had to go back to the airport a couple of times to have them open the lock with the key and reclose it correctly so that I can open it again with the combination.
I just re-ordered some more TSA approved locks, but this time through eBags. I'm hopeful that they'll be a bit more sturdy.
And I'm also hopeful that the TSA will respond with an indication of retraining at both LAX and GEG with respect to closing the locks after they've been opened by them.
Sent an email off to the TSA today because they've not been doing a good job at either GEG or LAX with closing the lock correctly at either LAX (terminal 3, Alaska) or GEG. Two of the locks have been lost because they fell off in transit in the open position, and I've had to go back to the airport a couple of times to have them open the lock with the key and reclose it correctly so that I can open it again with the combination.
I just re-ordered some more TSA approved locks, but this time through eBags. I'm hopeful that they'll be a bit more sturdy.
And I'm also hopeful that the TSA will respond with an indication of retraining at both LAX and GEG with respect to closing the locks after they've been opened by them.
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I have used the TSA-approved key locks (not the combination ones, anyway) a few times with mixed luck. The screeners at DCA told me I'd have to wait with my bag for them to inspect it "since it was locked," and it took me a few tries to explain to them that it was a TSA lock they could open without needing my help (of course, the guy also kept trying to take my carryon, to which I kept having to say, "No, I'm carrying this one on!" Go figure.)
Aside from the screeners beeing confused about the lock--even though it has the big TSA symbol right on its side and a big "TSA 001" next to the keyhole--I haven't had any problems with them. The times the bag has been opened, the lock was still there and was closed just fine, and there have been times they apparently didn't open it at all. I've been lucky--my fiancee's bag had its zipper nearly ripped off with a TSA-approved lock on it (the lock never showed up, nor the zipper pulls, and one of the plastic TSA bag "locks" was on it when she picked it up at bag claim)
Aside from the screeners beeing confused about the lock--even though it has the big TSA symbol right on its side and a big "TSA 001" next to the keyhole--I haven't had any problems with them. The times the bag has been opened, the lock was still there and was closed just fine, and there have been times they apparently didn't open it at all. I've been lucky--my fiancee's bag had its zipper nearly ripped off with a TSA-approved lock on it (the lock never showed up, nor the zipper pulls, and one of the plastic TSA bag "locks" was on it when she picked it up at bag claim)
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Originally Posted by curbcrusher
Two words: zip ties.
I've thought of using wire ties, but being unable to carry a pair of scissors with me, how do you get the wire ties off when you get to your destination? One could always use nail clippers, but....
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I haven't had any trouble with my bag being unlocked when I retrieved it. But I have run across many TSA agents who apparently aren't familiar with them.
TSA: Is your bag unlocked?
Me: No, it has a TSA lock on it.
TSA: What? It needs to be unlocked.
Me: It has a TSA approved lock. See the TSA symbol? You guys can open it.
TSA: Oh. **whispers to fellow employee** Okay, thank you.
I've had this conversation with at least 10 different TSA employees, as recently as last week at ROC...I thought by now they were a pretty common thing.
TSA: Is your bag unlocked?
Me: No, it has a TSA lock on it.
TSA: What? It needs to be unlocked.
Me: It has a TSA approved lock. See the TSA symbol? You guys can open it.
TSA: Oh. **whispers to fellow employee** Okay, thank you.
I've had this conversation with at least 10 different TSA employees, as recently as last week at ROC...I thought by now they were a pretty common thing.
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LOL. I have to chuckle at these experiences...not at the passengers but at the TSA screeners. All I can do is shrug my shoulders at this one.
TSA locks shouldn't be the problem that they apparently are in these incidents. Could be that in each of these accounts an inexperienced screener was involved. We're in the process of cross-training our checkpoint screeners in baggage, so that's one possibility. Of course, in the grand scheme of things, there are always a certain number of those who are slow on the uptake.
I'm willing to bet that a great majority of travellers have had no problems with the TSA locks.
TSA locks shouldn't be the problem that they apparently are in these incidents. Could be that in each of these accounts an inexperienced screener was involved. We're in the process of cross-training our checkpoint screeners in baggage, so that's one possibility. Of course, in the grand scheme of things, there are always a certain number of those who are slow on the uptake.
I'm willing to bet that a great majority of travellers have had no problems with the TSA locks.
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Originally Posted by Bart
We're in the process of cross-training our checkpoint screeners in baggage....
Many hotels have cross-trained personnel....it saves money an additional staffing and delivers better service.
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Originally Posted by LessO2
You mean they're not cross-trained right now anywhere? No wonder some TSAers might feel a sense of the "same old thing" every day.
Many hotels have cross-trained personnel....it saves money an additional staffing and delivers better service.
Many hotels have cross-trained personnel....it saves money an additional staffing and delivers better service.
You are absolutely right about that sense of boredom and monotony. I've always been fond of working checkpoint and never thought I'd ever prefer anything else. However, since I've been flipping back and forth between baggage and checkpoint, I look forward to baggage more than I do checkpoint. (This is a pretty significant admission, and the joke around the airport is that I've been seduced by the Dark Side of the Force.) The variety makes the job more enjoyable.
And you're absolutely right about cost-savings and effectiveness. Cross-training cuts down on overtime because all we have to do is cross-load our available workforce. And the variety results in happier screeners...for the most part. There's always that small percentage in any workforce who are never satisfied regardless of effort or who cling to some belief that this is all a conspiracy designed specifically against them personally.
I am surprised that there are still airports that haven't made an effort towards cross-training.
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Originally Posted by Bart
I'm willing to bet that a great majority of travellers have had no problems with the TSA locks.
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Originally Posted by LessO2
You mean they're not cross-trained right now anywhere? No wonder some TSAers might feel a sense of the "same old thing" every day.
Many hotels have cross-trained personnel....it saves money an additional staffing and delivers better service.
Many hotels have cross-trained personnel....it saves money an additional staffing and delivers better service.
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TSA Sent Email to CSMs at GEG/LAX Term 3
Got a response back from the TSA that they were forwarding my email to the Customer Service Managers at GEG and LAX to alert them to the issue of the locks apparently not being closed correctly by the baggage screeners.
All in all, a satisfactory result.
All in all, a satisfactory result.
#12
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hmmm
Originally Posted by TSASuper
My airport's entire TSA staff is cross-trained as well as many other airports. I'm sure that most cat III and IV airports have all cross-trained personnel.
#13
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Originally Posted by red456
Do you mean wire ties or the yellow things that often come with baggies?
I've thought of using wire ties, but being unable to carry a pair of scissors with me, how do you get the wire ties off when you get to your destination? One could always use nail clippers, but....
I've thought of using wire ties, but being unable to carry a pair of scissors with me, how do you get the wire ties off when you get to your destination? One could always use nail clippers, but....
I've never had an issue with baggage inspection using them. The one time I've had a bag inspected, the zip tie was replaced with a supposedly uniquely-numbered breakaway plastic lock from the TSA.
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Join Date: Apr 2005
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I fly from EWR to SNA through CVG one week ago and had a locked TSA lock on my suitcase. When I picked up my suitcase at SNA, the lock was completely gone with the card inside saying that my bag had been inspected. What irritates me is that the lock was cut off when it had "TSA" in big yellow letters on the lock. I'm assuming its not worth the time to try to get reimbursed for a cheap lock but has anyone had any experience? I'm also assuming its not worth complaining to the TSA either. Is there something I did wrong or do these screeners need more training?



