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Old Oct 17, 2004 | 11:50 am
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TSA in EVV

Why is it that the dinkiest airports have the tightest security/screening? Every time I've flown out of this airport, I am seleted for secondary screening (no matter how long ago I purchased the ticket).

I am never selected for secondary screening at any other airports.

Do the screeners realize that it makes me not want to fly there? It can't be good for the local economy.

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Old Oct 17, 2004 | 11:55 am
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What do you mean selected for secondary?

As in you walk through the mag and you dont alarm, but they seconadry screen you?

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Old Oct 17, 2004 | 11:56 am
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What do you mean selected for secondary?

As in you walk through the mag and you dont alarm, but they seconadry screen you?


I mean that after I don't set off the alarm, they still wand me and feel down my boobs. Not exactly what I would call a pleasant experience from a perfect stranger.
 
Old Oct 17, 2004 | 12:25 pm
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Originally Posted by pgalore
I mean that after I don't set off the alarm, they still wand me and feel down my boobs. Not exactly what I would call a pleasant experience from a perfect stranger.
If there's no "SSSS" on your boarding pass, meaning you are not a designated selectee, then you are likely being subjected to "continuous screening." TSA policy seems to call for someone to be in secondary screening at all times.
This policy is not strictly enforced at all airports and is not generally noticable at large hubs where there are usually plenty of selectees and alarmees without resorting to continuous screening. It is particularly annoying at small airports and/or un-busy checkpoints where the mere lack of traffic guarantees you additional attention.

One suggestion if you have time is to hang around the checkpoint and wait for someone else, preferably of the same gender, to enter for screening. She will then likely get the secondary and you will escape un-groped.

You should also consider sending a written complaint to TSA and your congressman expressing how you feel about having your private parts felt up. Large-scale public outrage and media attention such as the woman that recently drove DEN-SAN to avoid breast-groping is our only hope of stopping these abuses. Right now it's up to the women to help us, as it's not (yet) official TSA policy to directly grope men's crotches. But I have no doubt we will get there, as in less than 3 years the slippery-slope has advanced from general wanding and tasteful back-of-hand examination of alarms to de-shoeing at checkpoints to "limited" palm-of-hand patdowns of people who don't even alarm to outright groping/squeezing of women's breasts.

Those who think crotch-grabbing and strip-searches will never happen are ignoring history. TSA is setting us up to tolerate more and more of these abuses with their incremental enhancements; 3 years ago we would not have accepted todays breast-groping of innocent women, but today most people are tolerating it.
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Old Oct 17, 2004 | 4:40 pm
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Originally Posted by pgalore
Why is it that the dinkiest airports have the tightest security/screening?
Too many screeners with too little to do.
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Old Oct 17, 2004 | 5:15 pm
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Is there any way you can transfer your business to a busier airport? Another option would be to try to find a busier time of day to fly. I have had much more serious problems with intrusive screening at BOS (because I used to fly out of Terminal D, which has its own mini-checkpoint and hence acts like a podunk airport in and of itself) than at busier airports like BWI, SJC.

I've written a letter to AirTran explaining why I refuse to fly their service out of Boston. It's a small action, but in this case AirTran is the only airline that uses this tiny checkpoint, so I'm hopeful some action against the screeners who staff it might result.
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Old Oct 17, 2004 | 5:36 pm
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I actually don't mind the extra screening at small airports. About a year ago I flew LGB-OAK, and got (apparently) "continuous" screening (no SSSS). But the woman who hand-searched my bag was one of the nicest people I've ever met, and completely professional. Also no body searching, just looked through my bag. A few people were going through the checkpoint around the same time and all had their bags searched as well. She did a very thorough job, opening every small compartment and unzipping even a cosmetics bag. But she was so nice about it! When she looked in a tiny bag in my suitcase (containing just a bottle of lotion), she commented to the effect of, "Sorry to be so picky, I just don't want anything bad happening on my watch". Knowing that every person on my flight had been so carefully screened gave me a real peace of mind- nothing was getting through this checkpoint! I'd take this professional, consistent, thorough screening any day over the shoe carnival and inconsistencies present at the larger airports (which still probably miss a lot!).
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Old Oct 17, 2004 | 9:55 pm
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Originally Posted by GradGirl
Is there any way you can transfer your business to a busier airport? Another option would be to try to find a busier time of day to fly. I have had much more serious problems with intrusive screening at BOS (because I used to fly out of Terminal D, which has its own mini-checkpoint and hence acts like a podunk airport in and of itself) than at busier airports like BWI, SJC.

I've written a letter to AirTran explaining why I refuse to fly their service out of Boston. It's a small action, but in this case AirTran is the only airline that uses this tiny checkpoint, so I'm hopeful some action against the screeners who staff it might result.

Sorry to break it but, not a chance.

Airlines dont control TSA.
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