I must remove my jewelry?
#16
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Originally Posted by Punki
This, robodeer, was the first time that any TSA agent has told me that I had to remove my jewelry to go through security.
leading me to the conclusion that either: the previous incident scared the screener to back down like it was mentioned above, or that the screener erroneously told you that you "had" to take off the jewelry when knowing that you were not required to do so-but let you pass through the metal detector knowing it fine for you to wear it.
maybe i'm off base, but i'm trying to understand what exactly you meant by the other message.
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I see, robodeer. I guess by "they" I meant the ambiguous "they".
No agent had previously, specifically told me that I must remove my jewelry. I have, however, previously been told that I must remove my shoes, scarf, sweater, and/or suit jacket--once when I was wearing only a suit jacket over my bra.
Usually my security experiences have been pretty fast and painless. There are, however, a few TSA folk here in SEA who try to make a big deal out of directing elites into the longest possible line once they get into the TSA controlled area. If they do so, leaving open, empty lines for wheelchairs and employees, I will always request a supervisor to evaluate the situation, as it makes absolutely no sense at all to me to see a dozen agents wasting my tax money standing around, doing nothing, in two empty lines, while there are dozens of customers forced to wait in one or two slow moving lines.
The good news is that when the supervisor arrives, they usually comprehend and correct the problem before I have to say anything.
No agent had previously, specifically told me that I must remove my jewelry. I have, however, previously been told that I must remove my shoes, scarf, sweater, and/or suit jacket--once when I was wearing only a suit jacket over my bra.

Usually my security experiences have been pretty fast and painless. There are, however, a few TSA folk here in SEA who try to make a big deal out of directing elites into the longest possible line once they get into the TSA controlled area. If they do so, leaving open, empty lines for wheelchairs and employees, I will always request a supervisor to evaluate the situation, as it makes absolutely no sense at all to me to see a dozen agents wasting my tax money standing around, doing nothing, in two empty lines, while there are dozens of customers forced to wait in one or two slow moving lines.
The good news is that when the supervisor arrives, they usually comprehend and correct the problem before I have to say anything.
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Originally Posted by Punki
I am sorry if I was confused and/or unclear, the incident happened at OKC, not DFW.
I related an incident at OKC. I have OKC listed in my profile. Obviously you were speaking about OKC. Guess I was tired last night. (I use DFW 90% of the time, so in my mind that's my home airport, but how were you supposed to know that?)Anyway, I am not nearly as surprised to hear that you had your problem at OKC. Although there are some great TSA agents there, IMO, they are outnumbered by some who are less than sterling.
Thanks for letting us know that the thief was removed from the job. It's nice to learn that once in a while things turn out the way they should.
Last edited by oklAAhoma; Aug 30, 2004 at 7:41 am Reason: clarity
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Originally Posted by Punki
I see, robodeer. I guess by "they" I meant the ambiguous "they".
No agent had previously, specifically told me that I must remove my jewelry. I have, however, previously been told that I must remove my shoes, scarf, sweater, and/or suit jacket--once when I was wearing only a suit jacket over my bra.
Usually my security experiences have been pretty fast and painless. There are, however, a few TSA folk here in SEA who try to make a big deal out of directing elites into the longest possible line once they get into the TSA controlled area. If they do so, leaving open, empty lines for wheelchairs and employees, I will always request a supervisor to evaluate the situation, as it makes absolutely no sense at all to me to see a dozen agents wasting my tax money standing around, doing nothing, in two empty lines, while there are dozens of customers forced to wait in one or two slow moving lines.
The good news is that when the supervisor arrives, they usually comprehend and correct the problem before I have to say anything.
No agent had previously, specifically told me that I must remove my jewelry. I have, however, previously been told that I must remove my shoes, scarf, sweater, and/or suit jacket--once when I was wearing only a suit jacket over my bra.

Usually my security experiences have been pretty fast and painless. There are, however, a few TSA folk here in SEA who try to make a big deal out of directing elites into the longest possible line once they get into the TSA controlled area. If they do so, leaving open, empty lines for wheelchairs and employees, I will always request a supervisor to evaluate the situation, as it makes absolutely no sense at all to me to see a dozen agents wasting my tax money standing around, doing nothing, in two empty lines, while there are dozens of customers forced to wait in one or two slow moving lines.
The good news is that when the supervisor arrives, they usually comprehend and correct the problem before I have to say anything.
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Originally Posted by TSAMGR
Oh, yes the punki incident, we all know it so well.
Next time maybe you just lay down on the belt and go through the X-Ray. That way you can keep your purse in sight at all times.
Next time maybe you just lay down on the belt and go through the X-Ray. That way you can keep your purse in sight at all times.

You need to do something. The tone of your posts has changed over the past few months. If this is what the job does to people, you have to ask yourself whether you really want to be this way. You certainly aren't doing yourself or your coworkers any favors by reinforcing the public's suspicions about the attitudes and opinions of screeners. Is this what you wanted to be?
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Originally Posted by whirledtraveler
You need to do something. The tone of your posts has changed over the past few months. If this is what the job does to people, you have to ask yourself whether you really want to be this way. You certainly aren't doing yourself or your coworkers any favors by reinforcing the public's suspicions about the attitudes and opinions of screeners. Is this what you wanted to be?
like others said, apparently this board is for people to vent-to feel "better". that being said, it seems that the above comment was in-line with that goal.
but to add to that, i didn't take his/her comment as mean spirited. did you?
Last edited by robodeer; Aug 30, 2004 at 4:24 pm
#24
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Originally Posted by whirledtraveler
You need to do something. The tone of your posts has changed over the past few months. If this is what the job does to people, you have to ask yourself whether you really want to be this way. You certainly aren't doing yourself or your coworkers any favors by reinforcing the public's suspicions about the attitudes and opinions of screeners. Is this what you wanted to be?
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studentff writes:
I honestly don't know what happend at PDX beyond the fact that they thereafter let me keep my purse in my sight and stopped harassing me, which was my only goal. I was a bit of a local hero for a while with airline staff in both PDX and SEA. They had a copy of the article posted to the wall in the RCC bar. It was apparent that some of the TSA agents in PDX had also lorded their small bit of authority over employees as well as passengers.
At that point in time, SEA did a better job for the most part. I don't know what is up with this new routine of forcing elites into long, already over-burdened lines while leaving a couple of stations totally empty.
As for the denied boarding in PDX ^ ^ for standing your ground. I hope someone got fired there too for that violation of policy, but I doubt it happened.
At that point in time, SEA did a better job for the most part. I don't know what is up with this new routine of forcing elites into long, already over-burdened lines while leaving a couple of stations totally empty.
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I , too, have the "travel uniform" that I know will not set anything off. I even bought special shoes from Bass that do not have anything metal in them. I get annoyed when I'm told "We're recommending taking your shoes off." I prefer not too, and everytime I do, I'm directed to secondary when I know I didn't set anything off. I always take my belt and metal watch off. little Miss Redbeard got caught with about 20 thin metal bracelets on each wrist in HKG. Being warm, she couldn't take them off. There were some temperatures raising in line while people were waiting.
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Originally Posted by whirledtraveler
You need to do something. The tone of your posts has changed over the past few months. If this is what the job does to people, you have to ask yourself whether you really want to be this way. You certainly aren't doing yourself or your coworkers any favors by reinforcing the public's suspicions about the attitudes and opinions of screeners. Is this what you wanted to be?
The mind boggles.....

