Overdoing it in SJC
#1
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Overdoing it in SJC
As I lugged my self, my carry-on and my laptop bag/laptop out of the bag thru the screening area, I had no less than 5 different people ask to see my B/P. All within the confines of the screening area. What do they think, that somehow, someone will sneak into the middle of the line between BP checks 3 an 4?
They also were pretty bad about pushing our stuff out of the x-ray and crashing it into other people's stuff.
It could use some work.
They also were pretty bad about pushing our stuff out of the x-ray and crashing it into other people's stuff.
It could use some work.
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Join Date: Feb 2003
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In addition.......
@ RDU, if you're a selectee, and get by the CP without getting your BP stamped, you'll be escorted back to the CP, where you will be screened accordingly, and most likely miss your flight. We do not gate screen anymore. It seems on the surface to be overkill, but to COA, and try to make sure you make your flight, we will continue to check BP's @ the WTMD, and when you're leaving the lane. Sorry
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Originally Posted by Bart
But ask yourself this: don't you want to get the selectee screening out of the way once and for all at the checkpoint? Or do you want to wait until you're about to board the aircraft? Makes no difference to me. I get paid just the same.
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Bart,
I usually appreciate you thoughtful, informative answers here, and next time I'm in SAT, I'm going to look for you just to say "hi", but from what you're saying, the TSAers don't seem to think their employees can do a very good job of seeing SSSS on the BP, so they need 5 people to look at it. Maybe they need to make sure their screeners can read english.
I've only experienced this at SJC, so I guess they are less competent than the other airports. I haven't had this happen at your checkpoint, ever.
What happens if the 5th screener misses it too? Maybe they should add a 6th and 7th BP verification as well.
Or maybe, instead, send 4 of them home and quit wasting our money.
Originally Posted by Bart
It all boils down to this (and this has already been covered ad nauseum in other message threads, but it seems worth repeating):
If you are a selectee, that is, have the SSSS on your ticket, TSA wants to screen you at the checkpoint where it is more convenient for both you the passenger and TSA screeners. If you are not selectee-screened at the checkpoint, then you will be screened at the gate moments before your flight is ready to depart. While selectee screening used to be conducted at the gates, TSA figured it would be more efficient to do it at the checkpoint.
The reason for all the visual checks of the boarding passes is to make sure a selectee doesn't slip past the checkpoint. Overkill? Perhaps so. But ask yourself this: don't you want to get the selectee screening out of the way once and for all at the checkpoint? Or do you want to wait until you're about to board the aircraft? Makes no difference to me. I get paid just the same.
If you are a selectee, that is, have the SSSS on your ticket, TSA wants to screen you at the checkpoint where it is more convenient for both you the passenger and TSA screeners. If you are not selectee-screened at the checkpoint, then you will be screened at the gate moments before your flight is ready to depart. While selectee screening used to be conducted at the gates, TSA figured it would be more efficient to do it at the checkpoint.
The reason for all the visual checks of the boarding passes is to make sure a selectee doesn't slip past the checkpoint. Overkill? Perhaps so. But ask yourself this: don't you want to get the selectee screening out of the way once and for all at the checkpoint? Or do you want to wait until you're about to board the aircraft? Makes no difference to me. I get paid just the same.
I usually appreciate you thoughtful, informative answers here, and next time I'm in SAT, I'm going to look for you just to say "hi", but from what you're saying, the TSAers don't seem to think their employees can do a very good job of seeing SSSS on the BP, so they need 5 people to look at it. Maybe they need to make sure their screeners can read english.
I've only experienced this at SJC, so I guess they are less competent than the other airports. I haven't had this happen at your checkpoint, ever.
What happens if the 5th screener misses it too? Maybe they should add a 6th and 7th BP verification as well.
Or maybe, instead, send 4 of them home and quit wasting our money.
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Originally Posted by Spiff
I want all selectee screening eliminated. No haraSSSSment for anyone at anytime.
A. give my dangerous goods to a co-conspirator who wasn't SSSSelected, or
B. wait for another day.
And automatically selecting people on one way tickets or who made last minute changes, using soley those criteria, is rediculous.
#9
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Originally Posted by doctall41
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Bart,
I usually appreciate you thoughtful, informative answers here, and next time I'm in SAT, I'm going to look for you just to say "hi", but from what you're saying, the TSAers don't seem to think their employees can do a very good job of seeing SSSS on the BP, so they need 5 people to look at it. Maybe they need to make sure their screeners can read english.
I've only experienced this at SJC, so I guess they are less competent than the other airports. I haven't had this happen at your checkpoint, ever.
What happens if the 5th screener misses it too? Maybe they should add a 6th and 7th BP verification as well.
Or maybe, instead, send 4 of them home and quit wasting our money.
Bart,
I usually appreciate you thoughtful, informative answers here, and next time I'm in SAT, I'm going to look for you just to say "hi", but from what you're saying, the TSAers don't seem to think their employees can do a very good job of seeing SSSS on the BP, so they need 5 people to look at it. Maybe they need to make sure their screeners can read english.
I've only experienced this at SJC, so I guess they are less competent than the other airports. I haven't had this happen at your checkpoint, ever.
What happens if the 5th screener misses it too? Maybe they should add a 6th and 7th BP verification as well.
Or maybe, instead, send 4 of them home and quit wasting our money.
The screener doing these checks are on positions so as you say send them home is not an option.
So what would you rather have, a few seconds where you wave the BP at the screener or several minutes of wasted time?
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Originally Posted by Bart
[INDENT]Send me a private message letting me know the next time you're in San Antone. I'd like to meet you as well.
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Originally Posted by Bart
Spiff, my personal opinion is that selectee screening is unnecessary. Either we correctly and effectively screen everyone who passes through the checkpoint or we do not.
But the current SSSS system is like having the IRS send out a "You will be audited this year" notice with the 1040s. The people who get it won't try anything funny and get caught, and the people who don't know they are that much less likely to get caught (after all the IRS, like the TSA, has finite resources).




