Is Government Security Needed?
#1
Original Poster
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 82
Is Government Security Needed?
Read the following today, and it seems this is at least some proof to all that believe the government is the only line of defense in security now days.
http://www.aopa.org/whatsnew/newsite...0812watch.html
Hat's off to the alert folks for doing what they always do, protect significant investment in aircraft, and
to NBC for trying to create journalism.
Not to say that TSA does not have a place somewhere, I just think stepping into the NYC private helicopter charter screening business is not one of them.
While I'm not out to offend anyone, I think the question of needing TSA to perform all screening is a valid one. Thoughts??
http://www.aopa.org/whatsnew/newsite...0812watch.html
Hat's off to the alert folks for doing what they always do, protect significant investment in aircraft, and
Not to say that TSA does not have a place somewhere, I just think stepping into the NYC private helicopter charter screening business is not one of them.
While I'm not out to offend anyone, I think the question of needing TSA to perform all screening is a valid one. Thoughts??
#2
Join Date: Aug 2004
Programs: UA, SWA, HA, Qantas
Posts: 660
Originally Posted by Fly4Food
I just think stepping into the NYC private helicopter charter screening business is not one of them.
While I'm not out to offend anyone, I think the question of needing TSA to perform all screening is a valid one. Thoughts??
While I'm not out to offend anyone, I think the question of needing TSA to perform all screening is a valid one. Thoughts??
When speaking to the specific question of helicopter charters, the size alone tells you they cannot be used for a 9-11 style attack. They do not have the fuel, mass, ect. to create that kind of destruction. Could someone get hurt if a criminal/terrorist/crackpot tried to use this means of transport. Sure could, but the same goes for a taxi, bus, ryder truck. No comparision to using a 400,000 lb., fully fueled 767, two hundred people on board, and can get to its target at 450-500 mph.
Just my opinion.
#3
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: New York, NY
Posts: 1,673
Originally Posted by Fly4Food
Read the following today, and it seems this is at least some proof to all that believe the government is the only line of defense in security now days.
http://www.aopa.org/whatsnew/newsite...0812watch.html
Hat's off to the alert folks for doing what they always do, protect significant investment in aircraft, and
to NBC for trying to create journalism.
Not to say that TSA does not have a place somewhere, I just think stepping into the NYC private helicopter charter screening business is not one of them.
While I'm not out to offend anyone, I think the question of needing TSA to perform all screening is a valid one. Thoughts??
http://www.aopa.org/whatsnew/newsite...0812watch.html
Hat's off to the alert folks for doing what they always do, protect significant investment in aircraft, and
Not to say that TSA does not have a place somewhere, I just think stepping into the NYC private helicopter charter screening business is not one of them.
While I'm not out to offend anyone, I think the question of needing TSA to perform all screening is a valid one. Thoughts??
AOPA
AOPA has partnered with the Transportation Security Administration (TSA) to develop a nationwide Airport Watch Program that uses the more than 650,000 pilots as eyes and ears for observing and reporting suspicious activity. This helps general aviation keep our airports secure without needless and expensive security requirements. AOPA Airport Watch is supported by a centralized government provided toll free hotline (1-866-GA-SECURE) and system for reporting and acting on information provided by general aviation pilots.
The NYC private helicopter charter screening is for the RNC. Helicopters and private aircraft wanting access to NYC airspace will be directed to one of several smaller airports to have the aircraft and personnel searched before continuing.
The security is being run by the government so it only makes sense for the government component in charge of transportation security and screening be involved. TSA's role in the RNC is not isolated to just screening.
#4
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Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 82
Originally Posted by TSAMGR
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So the crew used a government (TSA) developed program to report this suspicious circumstance.
So the crew used a government (TSA) developed program to report this suspicious circumstance.
#5




Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Philadelphia, PA, USA
Programs: United 1K (after 15 years GS) 3MM, Marriott LTTitanium
Posts: 560
Yes, there is a place.
The security of the aircraft is a private company issue. Quite honestly, I do not have a personal interest in the safety of an aircaft that I am not flying on. That is the risk and trust in deciding on a reputable, safe carrier.
However, I do have an interest in whether that aircraft is going to fall onto my head while I am in my office, out playing golf, or even protesting at the RNC (which I actually wouldn't do). That is the government's responsibility.
The security of the aircraft is a private company issue. Quite honestly, I do not have a personal interest in the safety of an aircaft that I am not flying on. That is the risk and trust in deciding on a reputable, safe carrier.
However, I do have an interest in whether that aircraft is going to fall onto my head while I am in my office, out playing golf, or even protesting at the RNC (which I actually wouldn't do). That is the government's responsibility.

