That's old school,UAVs are now in fashion with laser and GPS.

... and with your clearance, I know you know just how effective they are...

Several people, both in these forums, and in the media, have proposed a screening system similar to that used by El Al, which includes a very thorough questioning, lots of cross-checking to see if an individual's answers contradict themselves, and other checks and procedures.

I've never personally flown El Al, but from what I was able to find, El Al's security procedures do not require passengers to submit to a shoe screening.

Yes, there are problems with the El Al system, most notably that it's very expensive to operate. I'd imagine that on a per passenger basis, it's more expensive than the TSA ... however, I think the TSA leadership could take some lessons from El Al, and work to actually improve security, rather than just putting window dressings up and ignoring the real problems.

(I have no gripe with the front line screeners who are just doing their job. I have a problem with the management who is instituting the stupid policies to be carried out, and not standardizing across the nation (which, I thought, the TSA was supposed to solve))

Several others have stated they want no form of this verison of security. Because to cross check, they have to know personal information, which people have huge issues with (CAPPS2). It's a great system for a single airline but how well would it work with mutliply airlines in one airport?

I was involved with UAVs by accident. My last duty assigment was at the Army Safety Center. I was assigned to handle UAV mishaps. Very protective community. Major aircraft manufacturers are banking that this is the way the military will go for all needs except for rotory wing. Here is a good source for UAV info available to the public, http://www.fas.org/irp/program/collect/predator.htm.

Well WhinesWay2much, I guess he does know...

Interesting responses to this subject. And I agree with statements made on both sides, therefore I will add my 2 cents (it is worth much less).

I Agree with TSAMGR, don't take it out on the person doing their job find the TSA Manager and take it out on them.

Every trip through Denver I willing go through secondary screening because I wish to wear shoes that will not set off the detector. I do not give the person a hard time but find the process stupid. Terrorism 101 will teach me how to avoid the secondardy screening, I will be trained to take off my shoes.

My major concern is not the shoe bomber or the underwear bomber it is the checked baggage bomber. We need to do a better job in this area, and yes it may cause some delays but so be it.

In another post someone pointed out a couple of thing to me, the first and most important was my bad spelling, and the other was that employees do not have to go through secondary screening (even with shoes on) if they do not set off the detector.

Therefore in Terrorism 102 a employee working in conjuction with another individual could bypass the entire system put in place to catch the shoe bombers.

I guess all that I am saying is that we need to be looking forward and not back, the people we are trying to stop are looking for new ways to beat the system.

So, I guess these statements place me in the camp that is called the "Whiners" so be it. But, I continue to fly on average 3 to 4 times a week and accept that what I can not change (except I will speak up when possible).