Know your rights at the security checkpoint..
 

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/ar...TICLE_ID=25974

The screener ARE not supposed to ask everyone to remove their shoes!!!!

I wish we knew the source of these rules. It would be nice if we had a publication written by the TSA with these rules.

The problem, of course, is that the TSA's own rules don't apply to the TSA. You could present a notarized letter from Loy and the screener would say, "That's not how we do things here."

Just part of the general lawlessness of the TSA.

http://www.tsa.gov/public/display?theme=1

Mailing list to be updated on future TSA policy and procedure changes.

"Screener Rules" if you will notice was written Jan 9, 2002. It is so outdated and misleading that it it laughable. Please go to TSAwebsite for the current information. Most of what is written is either flat wrong or is so skewed that it is meaningless.

The new and improved SOP in going into effect across the country right now. Local policy can no longer be done. As far as shoes the new SOP lets us profile shoes. So yes the screener can ask you to take them off. Once you submit your bags for inspection or yourself you give up your 4th admen. rights for search

If it lets you profile shoes, I'd hardly call it improved.


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"Give me Liberty or give me Death." - Patrick Henry

I don't think so.. if you don't like how a search is going, you have to right to call it off whenever you want to. You just don't get to fly.

The 4th doesn't apply because this is a voluntary search.

TSA Web Site, Press Release "TSA, Homeland Security Move to Make Shoe Screening Policy Consistent for Travelers" dated July 10, 2003 which states "Screeners have been given explicit guidance on which shoes require X-ray screening. Loy said screeners are being instructed to encourage passengers to remove their shoes and submit them for X-ray examination. Passengers will not be required to take off their shoes before going through metal detectors , but should understand that their chances of being selected for a more thorough, secondary screening will be lower if they do. In most airports, TSA has found checkpoint lines move faster if people remove their shoes for screening.
http://www.tsa.gov/public/display?co...0005198003cc08

The article is over two years old.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by whirledtraveler:
[B] I don't think so.. if you don't like how a search is going, you have to right to call it off whenever you want to. You just don't get to fly.

The 4th doesn't apply because this is a voluntary search.

Once you or your items cross into the "sterile area", a search cannot be called off... If you attempt to discontinue any search, a LEO will be called and a PARIS report will probably be completed... Not a smart idea to do...

[quote]<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by whatsinyourbag:
[b]How is it voluntary? I am required to do it to get where I'm going.

It is essentially the trick that makes this warrantless search legal at all. In general, the gov't needs a warrant to search you. That's the 4th amendment. When you are searched by the TSA, technically you are voluntarily being searched. You have the choice not to fly. There are other ways of getting any place else you want to go, it's just a shame they aren't practical.




[This message has been edited by whirledtraveler (edited Mar 04, 2004).]

Baloney, its my understanding that it is part of the law of consent that you can withdraw your consent at any time. Now, the TSA may be playing fast and loose with the law, trying to expand its power. We might have to see a test case or two to see if it is straightened out.

Personally, I'd like to see an arrest for refusal to consent to search. It'll make things appear as they really are.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by whirledtraveler:
[B] Baloney, its my understanding that it is part of the law of consent that you can withdraw your consent at any time. Now, the TSA may be playing fast and loose with the law, trying to expand its power. We might have to see a test case or two to see if it is straightened out.

Personally, I'd like to see an arrest for refusal to consent to search. It'll make things appear as they really are.


Well, obviously your understanding is incorrect... You cannot just get up and walk away (think about it, you would be in the sterile area... duh...). I did not say you would be arrested, I said a report would be generated (and that would probably help you get on the LIST).