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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by screenerx: So yell "BREACH" then. But if you can't watch someone or even follow someone to make sure they leave through the exit, I consider that sad. And again, how is someone leaving the checkpoint thru the exit a breach? I'm sorry, but this is the BS I'm getting completely tired of. People act before they think. If a guy was in the wanding area with me and just decided, screw this and decided to get up and leave. I would follow him down to his airline if he didn't exit or I would watch him to make sure he left thru the exit. If he did leave the secure area and enter the sterile area, I would follow and we he got to a place where he could stop, I would talk to one of my friends at the airlines to call my CP and ask for a Supervisor down to that gate. See, I've just saved a Terminal evac. BTW, my CP has been breach free since TSA took over to, not exaclty a big thing.</font> That is exactly what I said, TSA would be following him/her... And why is it a big deal to leave the wanding pit and enter the STERILE area to go to the exit... That is a no-brainer! |
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by screenerx: Omascreener, That I can understand. But the fact that whatinyourbag would call a breach means you bring all checkpoint operations to a stop because someone left through a exit. But anyone thats beyond the checkpoint in the unsecure area is a potentional threat. But I honestly still have a problem with the whole thing. Why call something volutary, when the second you refuse screening you have to be questioned. At this point, with all the incidents of mistreatment and such by screeners I can understand someone refusing to do screening.</font> I did NOT say I would call a breech... I said if they entered the sterile area and nothing was done, that is called a breech... You MUST pass thru a sterile area to reach an exit, so they MUST be followed and then questioned by a LEO... |
Then your checkpoint is set up different, you don't have to go through the sterile area to get to the exit at my airport.
But if someone leaves through the exit, why follow him/her? They have the right to refuse screening at any point which was told to us and why they refuse is no ones business, which my airport learnt about a year ago. |
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by screenerx: Then your checkpoint is set up different, you don't have to go through the sterile area to get to the exit at my airport. But if someone leaves through the exit, why follow him/her? They have the right to refuse screening at any point which was told to us and why they refuse is no ones business, which my airport learnt about a year ago.</font> And yes, we will follow them to the exit... And yes, it is someones business if you refuse screening after entering the secured or sterile area... A LEO will want to talk to you. Don't know why your airport thinks it isn't important... |
EXACTLY what law is broken when screening is refused?
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by CameraGuy: EXACTLY what law is broken when screening is refused?</font> Who knows, I just know what the policy/regulation is... Maybe they view that person as a threat that decided to wait (everyone knows when they cross over they are subject to search, so why change your mind after crossing over, just DON'T come into the checkpoint...) |
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by whatsinyourbag: And yes, it is someone's business if you refuse screening after entering the secured or sterile area.... A LEO will want to talk to you.</font> If a law-enforcement officer wants to speak with me, he will get nothing more than my name. If he wants to arrest me, he better have probable cause, and leaving screening clearly does not qualify. Bruce |
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">... A LEO will want to talk to you. Don't know why your airport thinks it isn't important... </font> <font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Who knows, I just know what the policy/regulation is... Maybe they view that person as a threat that decided to wait (everyone knows when they cross over they are subject to search, so why change your mind after crossing over, just DON'T come into the checkpoint...)</font> Reasons to refuse: 1) Screener Attitude 2) Don't feel you did anything to warrent said screening 3) Screener touching you in what you feel is in the wrong matter. 4) You realize you forgot something before entering the checkpoint. 5) The flight your trying to make closes it gate because the passenger was late as it was. Yes, it is regulation. Yes, I understand I have to do it, and I would (Just like the Stupid shoe policy) but I still have the right to disagree with it and state that. |
Refusing screening and walking away can be seen as suspicous, warrenting a LEO to investigate. If there is a problem with the screening (inappropriate comments and/or touching) then request the screener to stop and get a supervisor.
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by screenerx: They also know they have every right to refuse it. But of course TSA fails to mention that if you refuse, you will be questioned.</font> It's the Geneva Convention, I think. |
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by whirledtraveler: We're at war so remember: name, rank, and social security number. It's the Geneva Convention, I think. </font> Nonetheless, I like your approach. Maybe I'll use it when "questioned"... |
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