to all the knolegable tsa personel out there, why check a boarding pass 5, yes5 times in a small airport like hilo? waste of time and money and personel.

We just started our "selectee" lanes @ RDU.

Of course, with anything new / different, there's bound to be kinks. @ Term. A, you show your BP to a Globe person, just before going upstairs to the CP. @ the top of the stairs, you show it to another Globe person, who directs you to the lane. After going thru the "torture" of being screened, you show it again as you exit the CP.

Now, if you have the dreaded SSSSSS, you are escorted to the elevator, and whisked away to the CP, @ which point, you show your BP again. You're directed to the "selectee" lane, for your "inhumane" treatment. After your "humiliation", you show your BP to the lane lead, who then punches a hole in it, signifying that you've been properly "harrassed". You then show it to the Globe person @ the exit of the CP.

More times than not, selectees travel thru the CP MUCH faster than the non-selectee, because we are so understaffed, we can only man 2 other lanes. Of course this raises the ire of all those "nons" watching the selectees breeze by.

I have many opinions on how to improve the procedures, but I'm just a "lower than pond scum" screener, and it would just be a waste of breath.

But it sure beats the hell out of gate screening........right Spiff / CG ???



[This message has been edited by TakeScissorsAway (edited Dec 06, 2003).]

Yes,

It does beat gate screening.

I am willing to bet that a third lane could easily be opened up with a common sense approach to staffing.

Also, if there are no selectees to screen, are non-selectees sent through the selectee CP?

Yes.......but only during "non" peak times.

A side note.

We are required (by mgt.) to have a minimum of 9 screeners plus a lead on the selectee lane at ALL times. In comparison, when gate screening, we sent 2 screeners.

10 Screeners for 1 lane is idiotic.

5 is the most they should need.

I think that both gate screening and selectee harassment are deplorable and un-American.

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Oh, I couldn't agree more.

When the CP was rearranged to accommodate the addition of another lane, I don't think a selectee lane was considered. It's a total farce. 5 lanes, with only 3 in use, and 1 being manned by 10 screeners at ALL times. Plus, to top it all off, there's not enough room. We're running all over ourselves.

Reminds me alot of NCDOT. No forthought when designing or redesigning.

But I guess that's the curse we government employees have to live with. To bad the pax do too.

I got checked 3 times within a 20 ft distance (by TSA agents, not a contract employee) at LEX recently. First TSA employee looks at my ID/BP and tells me to goto the next TSA employee and show my BP again. Then I have to show it yet again. Isn't ONE check enough? Dedicated TSA agents to check IDs/BPs within eyesight of each other is a disgusting waste of resources.

At JFK this morning, 3 BP checks within 20 ft as well. 2 by TSA, one by a contract employee. By the 3rd time, I asked her why it was necessary to show my BP 3 times within 20 ft? She said it was for security and for her to ID selectees -- I then inquired if she was TSA, she said no, and I said shouldn't the TSA be checking for selectees prior to the checkpoint screening when they ask to see it *twice*?

She then just rudely said it was for security and said "buh bye". I just responded "buh-bye" in response, mimicing the same rude tone she used with me. Prior to that, I was polite the entire time and just politely asked why it was necessary.

What a bloody waste of time and money. Absolutely ridicilous considering I first show my ID and BP to a real TSA employee to get in the checkpoint, again to a TSA employee by the arch, and again after clearing security to this "contract employee". At this JFK checkpoint, the TSA would not even allow me (or others) through without shoe removal period. No shoe removal, you don't walk through the arch.

Passenger harassment at it's best. It was also slow at this time of the morning. Perhaps they had to *look busy* with this bloody nonsense, multiple BP checks, etc.

Is anyone feeling safter yet?

SDF_Traveler

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10 screeners in a lane?

Hot ****, we only have 10 screeners in my checkpoint to start off the morning. Two of them get assigned to gates, so that leaves 4 per lane.

But we're supposed to start a Selectee lane soon. But we have no clue how we can do that, if we can't put 5 screeners on that lane alone.