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Old Oct 12, 2015 | 6:12 am
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Originally Posted by 747FC
You are very safe with false positives. You are not safe with false negatives.
No one said anything about false negatives. In any case, I disagree with your thesis. Let's say that Mr T. Errorist has something explosive in his bag. Well, all he needs to do is put a box of latex gloves and a small bottle of hand sanitiser in there as well and he has a perfectly passable explanation as to why the explosive detector showed a red light. A particularly over-stressed security agent could just wave him through.
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Old Oct 12, 2015 | 7:48 am
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Originally Posted by seadog83
By far the best example of this is liquids. Going through security you see a great big garbage bin filled with fluids tossed away. Under the guise that they are potential explosives.

Now what would happen if someone tried to bring *actual* liquid explosives through in a water bottle? They would get tossed in the bin with the rest, and no one would give it a second look.

So now you have a situation where either we have to treat every single liquid filled bottle (the vast majority of which are harmless) as a live explosive (shut down airport, evacuate, bring in bomb squad, etc) or treat every single liquid filled bottle, as well a water filler bottle. The former wastes huge amounts of resources, the latter completely discounts the threat of actual explosives.
I've always wondered about the lunacy of this. Even though we are made to throw these bottles away because they present a threat, once they are in the bin they are treated as harmless waste. The aforementioned Mr T. Errorist and his friends could quote easily take bottles of liquid explosive, complete with detonators in the caps, and deposit them in the bin without a second look. This makes for a concentrated source of explosives at a bottleneck area of the airport where thousands of people could be standing. Way more impact than actually taking the damn things on planes.
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Old Oct 12, 2015 | 9:41 am
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GoJo makes more than just one product, they make an entire line of soaps and sanitizers, and dispensers. I commonly see GoJo hand soaps in the bathrooms of commercial and retail establishments, and their Purell brand hand sanitizer is ubiquitous around the US.
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