getting appointment at passport agency ?
getting appointment at passport agency ?
Jun 7, 2014, 12:08 pm
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I've tried hotel reservation and had that denied. So I went across the street/avenue and came back fifteen minutes later with a refundable ticket from a travel agency near the Varick St NYC Passport Agency office and that was fine by them. I canceled the ticket as soon as I got my passport issued later that day -- it wasn't my intention but I had to do so anyway..
Jun 7, 2014, 12:24 pm
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I've tried hotel reservation and had that denied. So I went across the street/avenue and came back fifteen minutes later with a refundable ticket from a travel agency near the Varick St NYC Passport Agency office and that was fine by them. I canceled the ticket as soon as I got my passport issued later that day -- it wasn't my intention but I had to do so anyway..
has anyone had an airline go after them for fraud for this, or is it only the people who do it all the time for weirder/worse reasons?
Jun 7, 2014, 5:25 pm
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I've done it before (not for this reason). It's only the latter group that has to worry. Several stories of folks doing it for lounge access & other stuff.
Jun 7, 2014, 6:39 pm
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It's fraud, but unlikely that doing it once would cause a problem. People on refundable tickets do this and pay for the need to be flexible.
Easiest for passport agency is as much documentation as possible. This includes e-ticket receipt (not itinerary), hotel reservations and anything else which has been booked.
Easiest for passport agency is as much documentation as possible. This includes e-ticket receipt (not itinerary), hotel reservations and anything else which has been booked.
Jun 7, 2014, 9:17 pm
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It's not fraud.
People buy tickets and book hotel rooms routinely with the expectation that they may change or cancel their travel plans, and that is why they buy tickets or book room rates that can easily be changed or canceled with little to no penalty amount due under the fare/rate rules. It's not fraud; rather it is how airlines and hotels sell more flexible fares/rates at a premium price.
It's fraudulent to represent non-fraudulent behavior as "fraud".
Hotel reservations are not accepted the same as air -- I've seen hotel bookings be considered insufficient -- but maybe that depends on where you are going and the acceptance clerk's geographic knowledge limits.
People buy tickets and book hotel rooms routinely with the expectation that they may change or cancel their travel plans, and that is why they buy tickets or book room rates that can easily be changed or canceled with little to no penalty amount due under the fare/rate rules. It's not fraud; rather it is how airlines and hotels sell more flexible fares/rates at a premium price.
It's fraudulent to represent non-fraudulent behavior as "fraud".
Hotel reservations are not accepted the same as air -- I've seen hotel bookings be considered insufficient -- but maybe that depends on where you are going and the acceptance clerk's geographic knowledge limits.
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Jun 7, 2014, 10:55 pm
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basically, im concerned about stories of AA going after accounts etc (not legal action) and NOT just large scale offenders
but it seems like airfare is only option, because i dont really want to do 3rd party expediter (if only govt did it..)
but it seems like airfare is only option, because i dont really want to do 3rd party expediter (if only govt did it..)
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Jun 7, 2014, 11:12 pm
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Jun 8, 2014, 12:05 am
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In San Diego, some may need something if traveling within 5 days; but there it could be a compelling story or a ticket.
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Jun 8, 2014, 12:09 am
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I am sure there are airlines whose FFP you don't use much if at all.
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Jun 8, 2014, 12:19 am
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Jun 8, 2014, 6:00 am
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Hotels may work for some acceptance clerks but I have tried that and seen it refused unlike with tickets for travel within 5 days. If it was Canadian or Mexican hotels or some island hotels, perhaps the response would be different at some offices and/or with some clerks but I had no luck and didn't want to make a fuss since I was going to need to fly anyway.