MR to Colombia?
#1
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MR to Colombia?
Will i get alot of problems with TSA when coming back to US?
I am from Sweden and iŽll be in New York and Los Angeles for vacation.
I am thinking about going LAX to BOG to gain some miles.
(LAX-EWR-BOG-IAH-DEN-LAX)
I am white young guy travelling alone (under 25).
If we skip the possible problems with explaining an MR down in Colombia. Will i get any hassle when returning back to US just after 2 days? I donŽt want to get stuck in IAH answering 100 questions and miss my flight.
Am i just paranoid?
Some people told me Colombia is a bit "special"?
Anyone with experience?
I am from Sweden and iŽll be in New York and Los Angeles for vacation.
I am thinking about going LAX to BOG to gain some miles.
(LAX-EWR-BOG-IAH-DEN-LAX)
I am white young guy travelling alone (under 25).
If we skip the possible problems with explaining an MR down in Colombia. Will i get any hassle when returning back to US just after 2 days? I donŽt want to get stuck in IAH answering 100 questions and miss my flight.
Am i just paranoid?
Some people told me Colombia is a bit "special"?
Anyone with experience?
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#4
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I did get a joking "any drugs" from the CBP agent returning from Colombia last year. Should've seen the look on his face when I truthfully answered yes (followed by a quick explanation that we had been on medical missions and the bags were full of prescriptions that weren't distributed). Waved us right on through after that. I've gotten more hassles returning from Europe (or entering Canada).
#5
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IŽll try and see what happens.
I have nothing to hide and hopefully i can enjoy Cartagena for a few days.
I got a look that looks very innocent overall. (CanŽt even hurt a fly-look) so hopefully this will be almost as smooth as when i go to US. WeŽll see.
Thanks for the quick response.
I have nothing to hide and hopefully i can enjoy Cartagena for a few days.
I got a look that looks very innocent overall. (CanŽt even hurt a fly-look) so hopefully this will be almost as smooth as when i go to US. WeŽll see.
Thanks for the quick response.
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Never lie to CBP officers about why you traveled. Just tell the truth using as few words as possible.
Best options: "It was a Pleasure trip." / "Personal travel."
Other good options (if true in your case):
- "Brief weekend getaway to see a new city."
- "I found a good fare decided to seize the moment."
- "I wish I could have stayed longer, but I had to get back for work."
If the officer continues to press you, simply state that you also wanted to collect the frequent flyer miles. This explanation would be IN ADDITION TO everything you already said, not instead of, so you would not be caught in a lie.
Never say you were meeting a friend/family/significant other overseas unless you actually did, and even then, I wouldn't volunteer that info.
Remember, assuming you are a non-USC/non-LPR, the CBP officer at Primary is examining you for admissibility purposes, and also conducting a risk assessment to see if you might be hiding anything that could be potential violations of U.S. laws or immigration/customs regulations.
Best options: "It was a Pleasure trip." / "Personal travel."
Other good options (if true in your case):
- "Brief weekend getaway to see a new city."
- "I found a good fare decided to seize the moment."
- "I wish I could have stayed longer, but I had to get back for work."
If the officer continues to press you, simply state that you also wanted to collect the frequent flyer miles. This explanation would be IN ADDITION TO everything you already said, not instead of, so you would not be caught in a lie.
Never say you were meeting a friend/family/significant other overseas unless you actually did, and even then, I wouldn't volunteer that info.
Remember, assuming you are a non-USC/non-LPR, the CBP officer at Primary is examining you for admissibility purposes, and also conducting a risk assessment to see if you might be hiding anything that could be potential violations of U.S. laws or immigration/customs regulations.
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The last time I returned from a long in miles and very short in time oversease MR, the CBP officer asked me the purpose of my trip. I asked him, "Do you know what a mileage run is?" He replied with a big smile, "Did you get the miles you needed to reach your status?" And I said "Yes."
"Welcome home."
"Welcome home."
#9
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I am a Brit and have done Colombia to USA more times than I care to remember.
Given the Hollywood image of Colombia, I am mainly surprised to see that such an image has not filtered down to CBP or Homeland Security.
I have been asked some pretty darned stoopid questions like "What is the skiing like in Colombia this time of year?" but not had any problems specifically related to the supposed notoriety of my origin.
Last month at MIA I was forced to answer all immigration questions in Spanish just to prove... Well I have no idea what this was supposed to prove.
You are flying back in to IAH. Twice I have done BOG IAH LHR and twice the labrador just after the baggage hall has sniffed my balls and condemned me to an extra hour of ridiculous questions in the CBP back room following "the purple line."
This is like 3 years ago, hopefully they will have since realised their dog is broken and have had it euthanised, retired or melted down for glue.
Given the Hollywood image of Colombia, I am mainly surprised to see that such an image has not filtered down to CBP or Homeland Security.
I have been asked some pretty darned stoopid questions like "What is the skiing like in Colombia this time of year?" but not had any problems specifically related to the supposed notoriety of my origin.
Last month at MIA I was forced to answer all immigration questions in Spanish just to prove... Well I have no idea what this was supposed to prove.
You are flying back in to IAH. Twice I have done BOG IAH LHR and twice the labrador just after the baggage hall has sniffed my balls and condemned me to an extra hour of ridiculous questions in the CBP back room following "the purple line."
This is like 3 years ago, hopefully they will have since realised their dog is broken and have had it euthanised, retired or melted down for glue.
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Are you aware that Skiing is a common street term for doing cocaine?
#12
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I am a Brit and have done Colombia to USA more times than I care to remember.
Given the Hollywood image of Colombia, I am mainly surprised to see that such an image has not filtered down to CBP or Homeland Security.
I have been asked some pretty darned stoopid questions like "What is the skiing like in Colombia this time of year?" but not had any problems specifically related to the supposed notoriety of my origin.
Last month at MIA I was forced to answer all immigration questions in Spanish just to prove... Well I have no idea what this was supposed to prove.
You are flying back in to IAH. Twice I have done BOG IAH LHR and twice the labrador just after the baggage hall has sniffed my balls and condemned me to an extra hour of ridiculous questions in the CBP back room following "the purple line."
This is like 3 years ago, hopefully they will have since realised their dog is broken and have had it euthanised, retired or melted down for glue.
Given the Hollywood image of Colombia, I am mainly surprised to see that such an image has not filtered down to CBP or Homeland Security.
I have been asked some pretty darned stoopid questions like "What is the skiing like in Colombia this time of year?" but not had any problems specifically related to the supposed notoriety of my origin.
Last month at MIA I was forced to answer all immigration questions in Spanish just to prove... Well I have no idea what this was supposed to prove.
You are flying back in to IAH. Twice I have done BOG IAH LHR and twice the labrador just after the baggage hall has sniffed my balls and condemned me to an extra hour of ridiculous questions in the CBP back room following "the purple line."
This is like 3 years ago, hopefully they will have since realised their dog is broken and have had it euthanised, retired or melted down for glue.
Second, based on the Port of Entry mentioned there is a chance that the officer was actually more comfortable in the Spanish language than English.
FB
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One. It proves that you at least speak the native language of the country that you are taking many trips to as a United Kingdom citizen. There are many that make those many trips that do not speak a lick of the language. Some of those are not there to see the sights, it is not a tell all proof positive but it is another indicator to look closer.
Second, based on the Port of Entry mentioned there is a chance that the officer was actually more comfortable in the Spanish language than English.
FB
Second, based on the Port of Entry mentioned there is a chance that the officer was actually more comfortable in the Spanish language than English.
FB
I am not complaining about any of this, although immigration and customs processes at US airports often leave me baffled and confused. I choose to transit through the USA and the USA has a right to defend its borders as it sees fit. I have no problem with that whatsoever.
As for the OP. Upon your arrival in the USA, you will not be discriminated against because you have come from Colombia, the treatment I get upon arrival is no different to the treatment I get when arriving from the UK.
If anything, any additional US required checks and balances take place before you even get on the aeroplane in Bogotá.
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IŽll try and see what happens.
I have nothing to hide and hopefully i can enjoy Cartagena for a few days.
I got a look that looks very innocent overall. (CanŽt even hurt a fly-look) so hopefully this will be almost as smooth as when i go to US. WeŽll see.
Thanks for the quick response.
I have nothing to hide and hopefully i can enjoy Cartagena for a few days.
I got a look that looks very innocent overall. (CanŽt even hurt a fly-look) so hopefully this will be almost as smooth as when i go to US. WeŽll see.
Thanks for the quick response.
I just met a collegue from Stockholm in Bogota for work. He purposely avoided transiting the US because of the immigration hassles. Unfortunate but true. Entering Stockholm via ARN for me has always been smooth although my super thick US Passport has caused a few questions since I have an insane business travel schedule.
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First time I've ever been asked that, not sure why. I wonder what's more incriminating - a single guy returning from Southeast Asia who doesn't speak the language, or single guy returning from Southeast Asia who does.
My guess is that before the CBP officer questioned the frequent Colombia visitor in Spanish, he or she asked him if he spoke Spanish and he answered "yes." Then he was questioned in Spanish to see if he was telling the truth. If, for example, his story was that he spoke Spanish and he was in Colombia volunteering or on business or visiting his fiancee, and then he couldn't answer any questions in Spanish, then his lie would have raised suspicions, perhaps that he was a drug mule who just holed up in a hotel there for a few days on every trip.
I don't know though, Firebug4 is the expert. i just watch "Locked Up Abroad" a lot.