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Old Nov 21, 2012 | 1:13 pm
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occupation on arrival card?

Hello all,

I am a US citizen from USA. My plan will be backpacking and traveling across the Schengen area (including Spain,germany) and going into SE asia from around May to July (about 3 months). By that time, I will have sufficient funds to cover them plus Im not spending too long in any one country I am planning on.

As I will be entering into some countries, I know that some of these passenger arrival cards (Spain,...) I will get ask that I put down the "occupation". However I will not be in a occupation, which is a paid internship in another country until sometimes in August. Since I am a 4th year undergraduate student right now and I will be graduating in May 2013 , what should I put down there in the meantime? If I put down student, How closely will the immigration officer examine that?

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Old Nov 21, 2012 | 1:49 pm
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Welcome to FT.

You are a student. They don't care anyway.

Having an onward ticket will be a much more important issue.
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Old Nov 21, 2012 | 1:54 pm
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Would a onward train ticket work rather then a plane?

Also I read that they could possibly ask for proof of sufficient funds, which Im planning on having a bank statement prepared by my arrival. Any chance of that happening?
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Old Nov 21, 2012 | 2:31 pm
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Originally Posted by petehsiung
Would a onward train ticket work rather then a plane?

Also I read that they could possibly ask for proof of sufficient funds, which Im planning on having a bank statement prepared by my arrival. Any chance of that happening?
That will work. The only thing they are really concerned with on the arrival cards is making sure that
1) You plan to leave the country when you say you will.
2) You have enough funds that you are not intentionally "stranding" yourself in the country and/or resorting to robbery.
3) Any reasonable occupation is enough- you probably shouldn't put down "member/leader of [proscribed organization]", though.
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Old Nov 21, 2012 | 5:31 pm
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A British intelligence agent upon arrival in Australia once famously wrote down "gentleman" as his occupation. The immigration officers reportedly were not amused. Why not try that?
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Old Nov 21, 2012 | 7:30 pm
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Originally Posted by warthog1984
That will work. The only thing they are really concerned with on the arrival cards is making sure that
1) You plan to leave the country when you say you will.
2) You have enough funds that you are not intentionally "stranding" yourself in the country and/or resorting to robbery.
3) Any reasonable occupation is enough- you probably shouldn't put down "member/leader of [proscribed organization]", though.
So I assume that the sufficient funds apply within just one particular country (say Spain,which I am planning on going there for Ibiza) NOT like a broad area, such as the schengen agreement area that covers a broad span of countries? I also heard from people that travelled to a schengen country that certain ones do not ask to fill out a arrival card at all.
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Old Nov 22, 2012 | 12:11 am
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I did not have to fill out any paperwork to enter Spain less then 2 weeks ago.
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Old Nov 22, 2012 | 2:45 am
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Once you enter Schengen you will not deal with immigration again until you leave. Spain immigration form is only for Non-Schengen anyway, so unless it is your first stop from the US, you will not have to deal with them either.
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Old Nov 22, 2012 | 4:26 am
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Originally Posted by bankops
Once you enter Schengen you will not deal with immigration again until you leave. Spain immigration form is only for Non-Schengen anyway, so unless it is your first stop from the US, you will not have to deal with them either.
I entered Spain from Jordan early last week. No form.
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Old Nov 22, 2012 | 6:12 am
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Several times on my tax returns I have put down "Serious Yahoo" under occupation. No problems so far .

For the OP and as said you are a student so put that down.
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Old Nov 22, 2012 | 6:35 am
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Don't make silly jokes. The reasons for the question, when asked, are self-evident. Catch a nasty border person on a bad day and wise crack and you get yourself excluded.

If you are a student, write that down.
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Old Nov 22, 2012 | 9:19 am
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You will almost always find the truth works best...

You are a student, taking advantage of a break to learn about some different cultures.

PS: Enjoy the trip!!! Next year you will be a wage slave like (most of) the rest of us!
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Old Dec 6, 2012 | 10:04 am
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Another question I have. It was sometimes in July when I was in Mongolia. As a US citizen, I was not required to get a visa since I was there for way under 90 days (33 days total). So I do not believe I overstayed my visa waiver.Yet because I did not register my passport in the mongolian immigration (its required if I was there for 30+ days), I was fined at the airport, filled out a sheet and went on. I have been advised that I was banned for 3 months and afterwards, I should have no issues reentering.

With that, would anyone know the next time I enter a completely new country (like say a schengen country such as Spain or let alone, a border tough country UK) if they pay attention or notice that? Or its only when I re-enter the same country?
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Old Dec 6, 2012 | 12:35 pm
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How about International man of mystery?
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Old Dec 7, 2012 | 2:25 pm
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Originally Posted by petehsiung
Another question I have. It was sometimes in July when I was in Mongolia. As a US citizen, I was not required to get a visa since I was there for way under 90 days (33 days total). So I do not believe I overstayed my visa waiver.Yet because I did not register my passport in the mongolian immigration (its required if I was there for 30+ days), I was fined at the airport, filled out a sheet and went on. I have been advised that I was banned for 3 months and afterwards, I should have no issues reentering.

With that, would anyone know the next time I enter a completely new country (like say a schengen country such as Spain or let alone, a border tough country UK) if they pay attention or notice that? Or its only when I re-enter the same country?
Was your passport stamped when you got fined in Mongolia?
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