TSA Pre Check Question...
#16
Join Date: Nov 2009
Programs: United 1P; AA Gold; National EE; SPG Plat; HH Gold; Fairmont Plat
Posts: 194
Twice through ORD so far (once UA, once AA), registered everywhere, and no joy.
Needless to say, no one at the checkpoint has the slightest clue why or why not one gets this. Frustrating! If hardly anyone gets selected, and it seems like hardly anyone was while I watched the line, why bother devoting resources to it?
Needless to say, no one at the checkpoint has the slightest clue why or why not one gets this. Frustrating! If hardly anyone gets selected, and it seems like hardly anyone was while I watched the line, why bother devoting resources to it?
#17
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Seattle WA, USA
Programs: Hilton Diamond, Marriott LT Plat, AS Lounge
Posts: 3,478
You may have seen a number of people who didn't belong in the line in the first place, making it not then surprising that they didn't get selected. Just a possibility.
#18
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Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: jfk area
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I'm in the pre-check program (via AA and GE). On my last flight out of lga (on AA), I noticed that there were more people (now) being selected (via the 3 beeps) than I've seen in the past--are others noticing this?
[Are international flights still being blocked (even if only part of an itn)?]
[Are international flights still being blocked (even if only part of an itn)?]
#19
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Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Palo Alto, California,USA
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No, at ORD it's the elite security line. Upon entry they check the boarding pass and then send you down one way or the other.
#20
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: gggrrrovvveee (ORD)
Programs: UA Pt, Marriott Ti, Hertz PC
Posts: 6,091
Thanks, that's entirely possible, I have my full name on the card but only my middle initial on the ticket. Classic TSA not to be able to manage that.
No, at ORD it's the elite security line. Upon entry they check the boarding pass and then send you down one way or the other.
No, at ORD it's the elite security line. Upon entry they check the boarding pass and then send you down one way or the other.
Very few people were getting the 3 beeps that day.
Also also, I've entered my GE info in my AA profile, but no joy yet. Hopefully next time!
#21
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Seattle WA, USA
Programs: Hilton Diamond, Marriott LT Plat, AS Lounge
Posts: 3,478
I wish they'd do what I've read they do at some other airports: Position someone at the entry to the precheck line and have them check whether you get the 3 beeps. Then, and only then, would they allow you to enter the precheck line. I understand that the SEA precheck line will be moving to another security checkpoint soon so I'm hoping they'll find a way to weed out those that are trying to abuse it. That would make it harder for those who are qualified for precheck but just don't get the triple beep that time but I'd be willing to accept that when it happens to me.
#22
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Join Date: May 1998
Location: Kirkland, WA
Posts: 6,932
At SEA I've seen what appears to be people using the precheck line like a line pass to the front of the elite line (which is next to it.) If you don't get 3 beeps at the precheck ID checker station they feed you into the front of the elite line. It appears to me that some people know this and get in the precheck line when they know they don't qualify.
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#23
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Seattle WA, USA
Programs: Hilton Diamond, Marriott LT Plat, AS Lounge
Posts: 3,478
That may be. Before I was eligible for precheck I used the elite line at other checkpoints since I often couldn't see how long the elite line was at the N checkpoint. In any case people don't belong in the precheck line unless they are eligible.
I just read that the SEA precheck line is moving over to the central security checkpoint beginning October 21. Maybe they'll do a better job of controlling entry to the line there.
I just read that the SEA precheck line is moving over to the central security checkpoint beginning October 21. Maybe they'll do a better job of controlling entry to the line there.
#24
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 580
I have a question about the post stating that United allows anyone to sign up. Does the airline generally allow anyone who signs up on its website to get it, or do people who do this still have to reach a certain level of status before qualifying for pre-check?
#25
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: gggrrrovvveee (ORD)
Programs: UA Pt, Marriott Ti, Hertz PC
Posts: 6,091
I opted in on the United website under my account. However, I never received precheck, to my knowledge, until I was provisionally approved for Global Entry. Coincidence? Maybe, as I didn't have my GE number in my UA profile at that time. Also, I'm Platinum.
#26
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: halfway between JFK and LGA
Posts: 976
Thanks. I wasn't familiar with the ORD setup. At SEA I've seen what appears to be people using the precheck line like a line pass to the front of the elite line (which is next to it.) If you don't get 3 beeps at the precheck ID checker station they feed you into the front of the elite line. It appears to me that some people know this and get in the precheck line when they know they don't qualify. (Note: As I mention below the SEA precheck location will change soon so hopefully what I've just written won't give some people the wrong ideas.)
I wish they'd do what I've read they do at some other airports: Position someone at the entry to the precheck line and have them check whether you get the 3 beeps. Then, and only then, would they allow you to enter the precheck line. I understand that the SEA precheck line will be moving to another security checkpoint soon so I'm hoping they'll find a way to weed out those that are trying to abuse it. That would make it harder for those who are qualified for precheck but just don't get the triple beep that time but I'd be willing to accept that when it happens to me.
I wish they'd do what I've read they do at some other airports: Position someone at the entry to the precheck line and have them check whether you get the 3 beeps. Then, and only then, would they allow you to enter the precheck line. I understand that the SEA precheck line will be moving to another security checkpoint soon so I'm hoping they'll find a way to weed out those that are trying to abuse it. That would make it harder for those who are qualified for precheck but just don't get the triple beep that time but I'd be willing to accept that when it happens to me.
#27
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: gggrrrovvveee (ORD)
Programs: UA Pt, Marriott Ti, Hertz PC
Posts: 6,091
Somewhat off-topic, but I was at LGA flying UA yesterday and asked the ID checker if she knew when precheck was coming. She said she was hoping it'd be by end of year, but didn't know. I said that at least I know I'd qualify when it was implemented there because I got the three beeps. She said, "That doesn't mean PreCheck." I countered that it has at every other airport and she replied that it means something else, but that she can't tell me what it means.
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#28
Join Date: Feb 2011
Programs: AA, UA, Marriott Gold
Posts: 349
Somewhat off-topic, but I was at LGA flying UA yesterday and asked the ID checker if she knew when precheck was coming. She said she was hoping it'd be by end of year, but didn't know. I said that at least I know I'd qualify when it was implemented there because I got the three beeps. She said, "That doesn't mean PreCheck." I countered that it has at every other airport and she replied that it means something else, but that she can't tell me what it means.
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OTOH, I'm not at all shocked by the lack of knowledge on what it does mean, even if it were something else.
#29
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Washington, DC
Programs: UA 1K 1MM, AA, DL
Posts: 7,418
I thought the signup was simply to express your interest in the program for whenever you might become eligible (using whatever criteria UA decided to apply).
#30
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 331
Twice through ORD so far (once UA, once AA), registered everywhere, and no joy.
Needless to say, no one at the checkpoint has the slightest clue why or why not one gets this. Frustrating! If hardly anyone gets selected, and it seems like hardly anyone was while I watched the line, why bother devoting resources to it?
Needless to say, no one at the checkpoint has the slightest clue why or why not one gets this. Frustrating! If hardly anyone gets selected, and it seems like hardly anyone was while I watched the line, why bother devoting resources to it?
Both my spouse and I have GE and have been approved for Pre-check. We have all our numbers registered with all the airlines and have status with UA (our main carrier of choice). We fly out of SFO (where pre-check is not even on the radar) but were finally in an airport where it is offered (EWR).
I will add that we were on the inbound leg of an international, multi-stop itinerary. We were already through customs and immigration and needed to go back through security to head to SFO and we were denied. No explanation.
If this is a TSA/government endorsed program to which we have chosen to apply, relinquish some semblance of privacy and pay the fee for the privilege of being interviewed and scrutinized before being approved, why is it up to UA to say whether or when we can take advantage of it???
What am I missing???