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Jan 31, 2012 | 3:15 pm
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Jan 31, 2012 | 3:22 pm
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Jan 31, 2012 | 3:32 pm
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If a TSA employee thinks I have given them a fraudulent ID and wishes me to start answering questions, I'm simply going to ask for an LEO. I'm not going to play 20 Questions with all the wannabe Behavior Detection VooDoo practitioners, or worse, milling around.
Jan 31, 2012 | 5:45 pm
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As you should if they suspect if it fraudulent. In the OP's situation one simple statement could have sent the TSA out of her way and up in the air.
Jan 31, 2012 | 6:13 pm
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Feb 1, 2012 | 2:51 pm
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You don't feel that the OP went in with a hostile view when volunteering no personal info s(he) could have been through just by saying my license was issued under the Military Spouses Residency Relief Act and if you have any questions about that contact your supervisor?
We all, especially myself, like to laugh & protest when someone makes it through the checkpoint with a mismatched name but this TSA checker noticed something unusual. Questioned it. Got a hostile response instead of a rather easy statement about the legal act that allows for the unusual ID. I use the Passport card just so nobody seeing it can tell if I'm going home or traveling away. There is also no question about myself being a citizen which has happened before...even though I have a typically arrogant NYC accent.
Now if the Agent/supervisor has been informed by the OP and proceeded with threats and retalitory acts I would fully support the OP is a campaign against the TSA but the OP brought about the initial confrontation.
We all, especially myself, like to laugh & protest when someone makes it through the checkpoint with a mismatched name but this TSA checker noticed something unusual. Questioned it. Got a hostile response instead of a rather easy statement about the legal act that allows for the unusual ID. I use the Passport card just so nobody seeing it can tell if I'm going home or traveling away. There is also no question about myself being a citizen which has happened before...even though I have a typically arrogant NYC accent.
Now if the Agent/supervisor has been informed by the OP and proceeded with threats and retalitory acts I would fully support the OP is a campaign against the TSA but the OP brought about the initial confrontation.
Feb 2, 2012 | 6:55 pm
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I have a Texas license with an out-of-state address; there are many reasons to have one, and it is more common than many would think. I have seen Florida, California, Tenn., and Okla. ones all with out-of-state addresses for military, students and a few other catagories. At one point I had an APO address on even.
I don't present my DL often, but I have had a question or two about it. Normally it is something like "How did you get that address on your license?" to which I reply, the change of address form (the truth). The reasons behind it are nobody's concern.
I'm surprised PNS has never seen this but then again with TSA, nothing really surprises me.
I have seen Ark. and TEnn. licenses with a blank picture and "Valid without Picture" in the box or "Valid with Military ID" for military and government employees overseas or out-of-state. All legal, and all it would take is about 10 minutes of training for new TSA clerks but God forbid we do that...
I wouldn't even get into the reasons behind it with the TSA. It is legal, they need to move on. Ask for a LEO and explain it to them.
I don't present my DL often, but I have had a question or two about it. Normally it is something like "How did you get that address on your license?" to which I reply, the change of address form (the truth). The reasons behind it are nobody's concern.
I'm surprised PNS has never seen this but then again with TSA, nothing really surprises me.
I have seen Ark. and TEnn. licenses with a blank picture and "Valid without Picture" in the box or "Valid with Military ID" for military and government employees overseas or out-of-state. All legal, and all it would take is about 10 minutes of training for new TSA clerks but God forbid we do that...
I wouldn't even get into the reasons behind it with the TSA. It is legal, they need to move on. Ask for a LEO and explain it to them.
Feb 6, 2012 | 2:55 am
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That is correct, I lived and studied in Hawaii on an F1 visa, I got the Hawaii State ID and it was always accepted by TSA (and the Maui Police which I unfortuntly had to deal with during my stay, I was robbed), but I always had my passport with me as a foreigner. Infact my passport was questioned on my way home at the TSA checkpoint in HNL.
Feb 7, 2012 | 2:03 pm
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That is correct, I lived and studied in Hawaii on an F1 visa, I got the Hawaii State ID and it was always accepted by TSA (and the Maui Police which I unfortuntly had to deal with during my stay, I was robbed), but I always had my passport with me as a foreigner. Infact my passport was questioned on my way home at the TSA checkpoint in HNL.
Cause they thought I was to young for the picture!
Cant help that I dont do good on pictures.
Feb 7, 2012 | 2:06 pm
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As a foreigner, you just show your passport (if you live and drive in a state in the US that has foreigners get local licenses, you can presumably use your US license). Unless you are a foreign spouse of a service member, that is really not related to the OP's situation?
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A lot of authorites in USA only accept US drivers lisence and/or US passports.
And I have moved so much the last years . That I would a CA. id 2 times a year. Dont think so. I dont drive at all.
Feb 7, 2012 | 2:38 pm
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Yes, I know I've posted two posts right in a row...bad week, if you couldn't tell by that fact.
As a military spouse, I have a TX DL with an address in another state listed on it (where I actually live) Perfectly legal by the Military Spouses Residency Relief Act. I've used it at several checkpoints with no issues until yesterday.
TSA at PNS apparently decided this was very suspicious and asked me about it. I told them it was a legal license issued by the State of TX and I was under no obligation to explain the "discrepancy" to them. This resulted in a supervisor, threats, etc. I would have like to push the issue, but unfortunately, it was a very necessary trip and I ended up digging my passport out of my suitcase for them Somehow the fact I was carrying a passport made my "suspicious" DL less so and they let me through, although not before patting me down and searching all my belongings.
I can't help but think I should have pushed them farther - after all, I'm not obligated to show multiple forms of ID, am I? Could they have done anything besides refuse to let me through? I had a sneaking suspicion they were about to confiscate my "fake" DL (as if any terrorist would have a DL with anything questionable on it to begin with) Is there anything I can do if they refuse to accept a valid government photo ID?
ETA: No, I won't show them my dependent ID. It has my husband's SSN on it. Would you give that information to one of those people?
As a military spouse, I have a TX DL with an address in another state listed on it (where I actually live) Perfectly legal by the Military Spouses Residency Relief Act. I've used it at several checkpoints with no issues until yesterday.
TSA at PNS apparently decided this was very suspicious and asked me about it. I told them it was a legal license issued by the State of TX and I was under no obligation to explain the "discrepancy" to them. This resulted in a supervisor, threats, etc. I would have like to push the issue, but unfortunately, it was a very necessary trip and I ended up digging my passport out of my suitcase for them Somehow the fact I was carrying a passport made my "suspicious" DL less so and they let me through, although not before patting me down and searching all my belongings.
I can't help but think I should have pushed them farther - after all, I'm not obligated to show multiple forms of ID, am I? Could they have done anything besides refuse to let me through? I had a sneaking suspicion they were about to confiscate my "fake" DL (as if any terrorist would have a DL with anything questionable on it to begin with) Is there anything I can do if they refuse to accept a valid government photo ID?
ETA: No, I won't show them my dependent ID. It has my husband's SSN on it. Would you give that information to one of those people?
The TSA idiots -- yes, they are idiots in every sense of the word -- at Pensacola see military members and their family members ALL THE TIME. To have a military member, or family member, possess identification involving more than one state is not only common, it's routine.
I agree with your view to NEVER show your dependent ID to a TSA clerk. It not only has your husband's SSN on it, the ID has YOUR SSN on it.
My war was the Cold War. The outcome to the conflict was that we would have all been vaporized (if lucky) in about 25 minutes after the missiles started flying. Those who survivived would have been the unfortunate ones, because they would have suffered the long-term effects of radiation poisioning.
Keep fighting the good fight, military spouse. Keep in the face of the TSA clerks. You have been there and done that...and they haven't even been close.