I'm not saying the program hasn't been in place but all we have to go on is the article you linked to.

Perhaps TSA.GOV needs to do a little PR work.

I will point out one thing, which almost none of you will like: there are major changes like this coming under RBS. Many of you have talked about how the tides of public opinion are turning against TSA. Whether or not that is true, programs like this, when they go national, will do much to improve TSAs image - even if you do not like such policy.

Its funny, I have had more than a few FT members PM me about RBS over the last few weeks it has been discussed, all excited and/or looking forward to it, asking me questions. And most have stated they wanted to do so in PM as they didn't want the negative comments from other FT members.

It is clear that what Pistole is doing is ensuring the continuation of TSA as a government agency. I know many of you want TSA disband. But imagine when this policy concerning children is nation-wide, and other policies too that I have not mentioned (some are shocking!). What will Congress and the public think then? You may not want to admit it, but RBS will end up being nothing but good for TSA.

Have fun discussing.

I understand. All I can tell you is I ahve access to other resources you do not...

There are signs post at Orlando airprot detailing the new procedures. And like all TSA signs they are small. Perhaps if someone is flying through, they can take a picture of the signs (and risk the wrath of an ignorant TSO?)? That would be helpful, I think.

I'm still waiting for gallon-size baggies to be accepted at the checkpoint.

What I don't see on the horizon is any alternative to the mandatory grope for those folks who are physically unable to assume and hold the position in the NoS.

But FSDs and TSOs are not obligated to act according to signs.

If, and I think it is a big IF, TSA can reach a point where screening is acceptable to the public then good for TSA.

Right now, today, TSA screening is a violation of every basic premise this country stands for (my opinion). If TSA screening doesn't change then yes it will be a long, difficult road not only for travelers but TSA employees. I for one do not believe that TSA is making these kinds of changes just because it's the right thing to do but to calm the political waters.

Very Encouraging news, but let's see it... We need RBS to replace the current rbs (rubbing b@lls searches) . Still waiting for the jury on ATR.

but...but...but... thats the only reason I work for TSA :eek:

It would also be important to know ...

a) where the signs are posted, relative to the procedures they describe. (It'd be awfully silly to have the signs saying "kids can leave their shoes on" at the checkpoint exit. But sillier things have happened.)

b) whether or not (and how) the signs describe the procedures as a local procedure ("pilot"). We've found, regrettably, that local variations on procedure create confusion for passengers --- especially when those local variations aren't identified as such.

I'm not sure anybody will be shocked. It seems the TSA is finding the biggest outrages and putting an end to them. If I had to guess the next rollback will be screening of disabled and elderly. Then perhaps rollback screening of famous people, members of the media, and congresscritters.

I'm not sure how the contracts for the NoS work but I have to wonder how much revenue they make from maintenance? It's possible that once they are purchased, the lobbyists (chertoff et al) follow the money and move onto other projects. Perhaps it has already happened, Congress denied further funding for them, and the money is no longer there. The lobbyists have moved onto the next boondongle and we'll see the machines start to collect dust within a few years as some ridiculously expensive but questionably effective biometric device becomes the "hot ticket" for the TSA's foray into "Risked[sic] Based Screening"

Agree on all points. Believe it or not, we all want good security at airports. We'd even be happy to let the TSA do it, if we weren't made to feel like felons every time we walked through the airport.

Hah, I knew it! Taking screen shot and emailing Pistole right now! ;)

Mike

I hope so! We have a "rbs" award that TSA hands out yearly, two golden bowling balls placed together on a plaque. I want it this year!

^^^

Why only at MCO? Mickey Mouse figured out that a groped kid at the end of a Disney trip is bad for repeat business? It's funny how just a minute or two at the hands of TSA can destroy a week of magic.

Still, grandma is pissed that the kids can't fly to see her without being groped. Maybe it's time for her to move to Orlando.

Would that be TBRO: Transportation bullocks rubbing officer?