Which Countries Require Shoe Removal?
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#17
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AKL-SFO 29 May: No shoe removal. No belt removal. My netbook stayed in its neoprene sleeve.
Contrast with the domestic route:
SFO-PHX 29 May: Shoes and belt off, I was reminded that US air travel is insane.
And Team SFO asks a stupid question which I didn't answer.
Contrast with the domestic route:
SFO-PHX 29 May: Shoes and belt off, I was reminded that US air travel is insane.
And Team SFO asks a stupid question which I didn't answer.
#19
Join Date: Jan 2011
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It's actually really sad to see little American children conditioned to shoe removal in Europe. Last year at LHR a little boy was almost frantic because his mother didn't remove her shoes. (She didn't need to)
In Germany last week there was a mother with five children in front of me; the oldest was about 8-9 and asked 'Mommy, do we need to take our shoes off again?' and Mommy said 'Yes'. I piped up with 'actually, here you do not' but Mommy ignored me. The little girl turned around and I pointed out several people going through the WTMD without removing their shoes.
Just then Bob and his wife cut the line in front of Mommy, and Bob promptly removed his lace ups and ordered his wife to do the same, even though security told him it wasn't necessary. This caused a chain reaction of shoe removal and Mommy had the child help remove four other pairs of shoes.
I felt really bad, but I walked through as I do every time without taking off my shoes.
In Germany last week there was a mother with five children in front of me; the oldest was about 8-9 and asked 'Mommy, do we need to take our shoes off again?' and Mommy said 'Yes'. I piped up with 'actually, here you do not' but Mommy ignored me. The little girl turned around and I pointed out several people going through the WTMD without removing their shoes.
Just then Bob and his wife cut the line in front of Mommy, and Bob promptly removed his lace ups and ordered his wife to do the same, even though security told him it wasn't necessary. This caused a chain reaction of shoe removal and Mommy had the child help remove four other pairs of shoes.
I felt really bad, but I walked through as I do every time without taking off my shoes.
Last edited by Mimi111; Jun 1, 2011 at 4:44 pm
#21
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At ZRH, the LX flights to the US have a segregated area where you have to go through security again, including removal of shoes.
Also, they have a bunch of small rooms in that area for pat downs (not used as primary) for those suspected for smuggling Swiss chocolate
Also, they have a bunch of small rooms in that area for pat downs (not used as primary) for those suspected for smuggling Swiss chocolate
#22
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So it sounds like US bound flights, (except for Sri Lanka and possibly a few more) and in places like BRU perhaps all flights leaving from that area. I wonder if that is an airport design issue which necessitates that.
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At ICN, it seemed that everyone was expected to remove shoes. There, they gave us special sandals to wear under our socks as we went through the WTMD. I could not tell whether this was required, but it appeared that everyone going through my security line was doing this. I was actually surprised that I did not find more about this on Flyertalk.
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Philippines is pretty much 100% shoes off, belts off, pockets completely emptied followed by a WTMD and a cursory non-sexual pat down performed by a polite security guard. Security lines are segregated by gender so women and children go through the women’s line and men go through the men’s line. That's for all flights. Varying secondary gate checks including secondary WTMD and bag checks are randomly applied. PAL departures nonstop to the USA of course go one step further with a secondary gate check with 100% serious bag checks, laptops sometimes need to be powered up to prove they are functional laptops but no intrest is paid to the data, a 100% "drop your shoes off and pick then up later on down the line" shoe checking station, another WTMD and secondary non-sexual pat down and a document checking station.
All in all, even if it is over the top it is not time consuming and at least the employees are polite and good natured even if they are prone to making up weird rules.
All in all, even if it is over the top it is not time consuming and at least the employees are polite and good natured even if they are prone to making up weird rules.
Last edited by Mabuk dan gila; May 31, 2011 at 10:16 pm
#26
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I always wear shoes I can drop on the floor and slip on, at most I have to adjust a strap.
#27
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I don't get that - if you KNOW you're going to be taking your shoes off, why wear lace up tennis shoes that take a while to put back on? I can understand some confusion over rules if you're an infrequent flyer, but if you "know" (as they did) that the shoes have to come off, make it easy on yourself!
I always wear shoes I can drop on the floor and slip on, at most I have to adjust a strap.
I always wear shoes I can drop on the floor and slip on, at most I have to adjust a strap.
Besides, why should we be forced to change our travel attire for a stupid rule? Change the rule!
#28
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I don't get that - if you KNOW you're going to be taking your shoes off, why wear lace up tennis shoes that take a while to put back on? I can understand some confusion over rules if you're an infrequent flyer, but if you "know" (as they did) that the shoes have to come off, make it easy on yourself!
I always wear shoes I can drop on the floor and slip on, at most I have to adjust a strap.
I always wear shoes I can drop on the floor and slip on, at most I have to adjust a strap.
They were a large group of older folks on a fun trip. Couldn't be bothered to say much about it aside from "Really, you don't have to take them off" but they were so conditioned, I guess, that they did anyway.
edit: On the flip side, perhaps those were the most comfortable shoes for travel. Very good point BL.
#29
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Sometimes when flying very far and long, convenience for the TSA pass is not as important as long-time comfort or convenience of transport (such as wearing your bulkiest shoes to get more packing space).
Besides, why should we be forced to change our travel attire for a stupid rule? Change the rule!
Besides, why should we be forced to change our travel attire for a stupid rule? Change the rule!



