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Old Apr 15, 2011, 10:25 am
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CNN: TSA security looks at people who complain about ... TSA security

http://www.cnn.com/2011/TRAVEL/04/15...ners.complain/

Washington (CNN) -- Don't like the way airport screeners are doing their job? You might not want to complain too much while standing in line.
Arrogant complaining about airport security is one indicator Transportation Security Administration officers consider when looking for possible criminals and terrorists, CNN has learned exclusively. And, when combined with other behavioral indicators, it could result in a traveler facing additional scrutiny....

...Expressing your contempt about airport procedures -- that's a First Amendment-protected right," said Michael German, a former FBI agent who now works as legal counsel for the American Civil Liberties Union. "We all have the right to express our views, and particularly in a situation where the government is demanding the ability to search you."
"It's circular reasoning where, you know, I'm going to ask someone to surrender their rights; if they refuse, that's evidence that I need to take their rights away from them. And it's simply inappropriate," he said...

Members of Congress also expressed concern about the number of "false positives" -- people flagged for additional screening that resulted in nothing being found. For every person correctly identified as a "high risk" traveler by (the behavior detection officers), 86 were misidentified, Willis said. At random screening, for every person correctly identified, 794 were misidentified...

...The ACLU's German, who has not seen the behavioral indicators list, said he fears the indicators "are being used simply as a proxy for racial profiling or other inappropriate police activities." The number of people arrested at
airport checkpoints for immigration violations suggests the behavior detection officers are profiling, he said...


Thirty-nine percent of the 1,083 people arrested during the first four and a half years of the program were arrested because they were illegal aliens, according to the Government Accountability Office...
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Old Apr 15, 2011, 10:31 am
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"SPOT identifies high-risk travelers at a significantly higher rate then random screening," Larry Willis of the department's Science and Technology Directorate testified.
Sure it does. That's why they've been completely unable to substantiate that claim when the numbers show the SPOT program to be no better (and likely worse) than random screening.
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Old Apr 15, 2011, 10:53 am
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Originally Posted by mules
http://www.cnn.com/2011/TRAVEL/04/15...ners.complain/

Washington (CNN) -- Don't like the way airport screeners are doing their job? You might not want to complain too much while standing in line.
Arrogant complaining about airport security is one indicator Transportation Security Administration officers consider when looking for possible criminals and terrorists, CNN has learned exclusively. And, when combined with other behavioral indicators, it could result in a traveler facing additional scrutiny....

...Expressing your contempt about airport procedures -- that's a First Amendment-protected right," said Michael German, a former FBI agent who now works as legal counsel for the American Civil Liberties Union. "We all have the right to express our views, and particularly in a situation where the government is demanding the ability to search you."
"It's circular reasoning where, you know, I'm going to ask someone to surrender their rights; if they refuse, that's evidence that I need to take their rights away from them. And it's simply inappropriate," he said...

Members of Congress also expressed concern about the number of "false positives" -- people flagged for additional screening that resulted in nothing being found. For every person correctly identified as a "high risk" traveler by (the behavior detection officers), 86 were misidentified, Willis said. At random screening, for every person correctly identified, 794 were misidentified...

...The ACLU's German, who has not seen the behavioral indicators list, said he fears the indicators "are being used simply as a proxy for racial profiling or other inappropriate police activities." The number of people arrested at
airport checkpoints for immigration violations suggests the behavior detection officers are profiling, he said...


Thirty-nine percent of the 1,083 people arrested during the first four and a half years of the program were arrested because they were illegal aliens, according to the Government Accountability Office...
This is deeply offensive, and just one more example of the TSA finding a way to justify an end run around our Constitutional rights.

Last edited by essxjay; Apr 16, 2011 at 11:18 am Reason: gratuitous political commentary
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Old Apr 15, 2011, 11:05 am
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No worries, they are just talking about BDOs. Obvious behavior might just get their attention; subtle clues not a chance. Actual terrorists who are pathological don't exhibit anything abnormal.

Waste of good oxygen.
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Old Apr 15, 2011, 11:08 am
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Originally Posted by mules
http://www.cnn.com/2011/TRAVEL/04/15...ners.complain/

Washington (CNN) -- Don't like the way airport screeners are doing their job? You might not want to complain too much while standing in line.
Arrogant complaining about airport security is one indicator Transportation Security Administration officers consider when looking for possible criminals and terrorists, CNN has learned exclusively. And, when combined with other behavioral indicators, it could result in a traveler facing additional scrutiny....

...Expressing your contempt about airport procedures -- that's a First Amendment-protected right," said Michael German, a former FBI agent who now works as legal counsel for the American Civil Liberties Union. "We all have the right to express our views, and particularly in a situation where the government is demanding the ability to search you."
"It's circular reasoning where, you know, I'm going to ask someone to surrender their rights; if they refuse, that's evidence that I need to take their rights away from them. And it's simply inappropriate," he said...

Members of Congress also expressed concern about the number of "false positives" -- people flagged for additional screening that resulted in nothing being found. For every person correctly identified as a "high risk" traveler by (the behavior detection officers), 86 were misidentified, Willis said. At random screening, for every person correctly identified, 794 were misidentified...

...The ACLU's German, who has not seen the behavioral indicators list, said he fears the indicators "are being used simply as a proxy for racial profiling or other inappropriate police activities." The number of people arrested at
airport checkpoints for immigration violations suggests the behavior detection officers are profiling, he said...


Thirty-nine percent of the 1,083 people arrested during the first four and a half years of the program were arrested because they were illegal aliens, according to the Government Accountability Office...

Makes sense...most criminals go out of their way to draw attention to themselves.
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Old Apr 15, 2011, 11:18 am
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If this is TSA's game plan I'm surely headed for the stocks.
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Old Apr 15, 2011, 11:24 am
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Originally Posted by a7800
Makes sense...most criminals go out of their way to draw attention to themselves.
Unfortunately this is exactly how the appointed ones in charge think.
They are so far removed from reality and continue to make decisions based on their own beliefs on how the world operates.

The down side is that we all suffer because of it.
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Old Apr 15, 2011, 11:25 am
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Originally Posted by Boggie Dog
If this is TSA's game plan I'm surely headed for the stocks.
You'll have plenty of company, present company included.
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Old Apr 15, 2011, 11:56 am
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Complain about the TSA - Get Extra Screening.

No wonder I'm Secure Flight'ed out of OLCI and Mr. Chicken.

http://www.cnn.com/2011/TRAVEL/04/15...ex.html?hpt=T2

Nice to see the more mainstream media picking up heavily on this. Can't help but think Anderson Cooper and his disdain for these morons is helping drive this.
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Old Apr 15, 2011, 12:09 pm
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Originally Posted by Boggie Dog
If this is TSA's game plan I'm surely headed for the stocks.
wow. how to make enemies and alienate people. take a normal human reaction and criminalize it. voila more domestic terrorists.
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Old Apr 15, 2011, 12:16 pm
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Originally Posted by nachtnebel
wow. how to make enemies and alienate people. take a normal human reaction and criminalize it. voila more domestic terrorists.
Link already up on Drudge.

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Old Apr 15, 2011, 1:03 pm
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Reminds me of Nixon's enemies list.
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Old Apr 15, 2011, 1:03 pm
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Roger Ebert, now there's an arrogant fellow for ya ...

I guess he's suspect #1.
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Old Apr 15, 2011, 1:09 pm
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The BDO program is such crap. The last people that would want to complain are those with an evil agenda. Complaining will always garner more attention, which is something bad guys don't want, unless it's to cause a distraction.
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Old Apr 15, 2011, 1:10 pm
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Originally Posted by mules
*snip*

CNN has learned exclusively.

*snip*
How sickeningly self-serving. Instead of becoming mouth organs for any and every transportation agency trying to "do something" in the name of traveler safety and security for nigh nine years why the blazes didn't they ask themselves before what might the unintended consequences be to freedom and privacy and *actual* safety?


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