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Old Jan 24, 2011 | 7:49 am
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Originally Posted by Global_Hi_Flyer
Guess what: TSA does the same background checks on themselves.

It would not take too much for someone affiliated with a terrorist group to pass the TSA background check & end up in a position of power. Heck, there's nothing that would stop a TSA screener from bringing a gun on premises & unloading on the folks queued up in line waiting for screening. Or an IED. But that hasn't happened (save for the guy in Denver that brought a gun to work) - and it's highly unlikely to happen with registered travelers. Heck, the TSA has even hired convicted felons - folks that would not be able to pass a registered traveler background check.
Out of curiosity, do you know what the TSA background check entails? Can you share any details? For the record, I agree that even someone who passes a background check can still do something to compromise security, but how easy are you saying it is for someone affiliated with a terrorist group (or a convicted felon, for that matter) to pass the background check?
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Old Jan 24, 2011 | 7:57 am
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Originally Posted by gobluetwo
how easy are you saying it is for someone affiliated with a terrorist group (or a convicted felon, for that matter) to pass the background check?
In 2009, a dozen illegal aliens from Central America and Mexico passed the TSA's so-called "background checks" to be granted "trusted agent" access badges to operational areas at Stewart International Airport.

How much easier do you think it should be?
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Old Jan 24, 2011 | 9:44 am
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Originally Posted by Caradoc
In 2009, a dozen illegal aliens from Central America and Mexico passed the TSA's so-called "background checks" to be granted "trusted agent" access badges to operational areas at Stewart International Airport.

How much easier do you think it should be?
Not saying it should be "easier", wondering about standards. Interesting about the illegal aliens, hadn't heard about that. Not terribly reassuring...

http://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/20...ork-ny-airport

Still, anyone know what the background check entails (or should entail, were it carried it properly)?
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Old Jan 24, 2011 | 9:51 am
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Originally Posted by gobluetwo
Not saying it should be "easier", wondering about standards.
I was being sarcastic.

From all evidence, the TSA doesn't seem to actually have standards. They've issued "trusted agent" passes to illegal aliens, regularly hire thieves, rapists, and child molesters, lie to the public on a regular basis, fail to train their personnel, insist that airports grant access to convicted felons that the TSA has hired... where should we begin to expect "standards" from them?
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Old Jan 24, 2011 | 10:05 am
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Originally Posted by gobluetwo
Still, anyone know what the background check entails (or should entail, were it carried it properly)?
Here's what TSA told Congress:

http://www.tsa.gov/press/speeches/as...able_0393.shtm

If one is not on any of the "lists", then one is eligible for hire.

There is no reason that a traveler - particularly one that has undergone numerous federal background checks to a much higher level than TSA - can't be considered *at least* as low a risk as a TSA employee.
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Old Jan 24, 2011 | 10:48 am
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It sounds like this was a stupid test all the way around.

Sure, they got an unaccompanied "package" checked as baggage by paying a bribe. But said unaccompanied package was screened, presumably with CTX, and cleared. Like all checked bags.

On the other hand, a shipper could walk up to the cargo side of the airport, not even pay a bribe, and get the unaccompanied package on the same aircraft, possibly with no screening whatsoever if they have gone through the "trusted shipper" process.

Until the cargo screening problem is 100% fixed, doing these sorts of tests on the passenger/baggage side is pointless.
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Old Jan 24, 2011 | 11:11 am
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Originally Posted by gobluetwo
Not saying it should be "easier", wondering about standards. Interesting about the illegal aliens, hadn't heard about that. Not terribly reassuring...

http://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/20...ork-ny-airport

Still, anyone know what the background check entails (or should entail, were it carried it properly)?
Ok, how about this one, an active TSA employee with a felony record.+

http://www2.wsls.com/news/2010/feb/0...ear-ar-371878/

TSA orders Richmond airport to give security clearance to felon
By Peter Bacque Richmond Times-Dispatch
Published: February 04, 2010
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