Charter Flights To Avoid Groping!
Jan 4, 2011 | 12:16 pm
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Charter Flights To Avoid Groping!
There is an advertised effort in Silicon Valley(SJC) for frequent(mainly) female fliers to join in small commuter charter flights to common destinations as an effort to avoid tsa's humiliating groping. I would like to see this widely advertised for travelers to sign up for charter flights online by date. I believe a common destination like LAX would have little difficulty aquiring passengers on at least a Mo-Fr basis.
What do Forum readers think of this and is there a real possibility this could be be targeted for harrasment if successful??
Jan 4, 2011 | 12:34 pm
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Any links you can share?
What airplanes?
That'll help understand how it fits within the TSA rules, operating costs, etc.
Might be a charter company working to expand their client base, or fill in dead-heads flights.
What airplanes?
That'll help understand how it fits within the TSA rules, operating costs, etc.
Might be a charter company working to expand their client base, or fill in dead-heads flights.
Jan 4, 2011 | 3:57 pm
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It seems that the airlines have been 'liminating first class seats, adding hassles (carry on bag fees), enjoying their TSA security and former first class flyers are looking more to the Air Taxi services of general aviation.
I expect this trend to continue. No scope, no grope, no excess baggage fees, you go when you want and return when you can.
Jan 4, 2011 | 5:30 pm
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This Thread Reminds Me of an Article I Read Last Week
Jan 5, 2011 | 12:16 am
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Jan 5, 2011 | 12:25 am
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Seems too good to be true. How do they get around the clowns??
Jan 5, 2011 | 12:29 am
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Jan 5, 2011 | 12:35 am
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Maybe it has something to do with the number of pax that are transported to still be considered "general aviation"? I have no idea. But if there is a way around it I smell a HUGE business opportunity for any airline that can legally pull this off. I wouldn't even think twice about using them even if the costs were higher (yet reasonable) and the schedules were inconvenient.
Jan 5, 2011 | 12:37 am
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Maybe it has something to do with the number of pax that are transported to still be considered "general aviation"? I have no idea. But if there is a way around it I smell a HUGE business opportunity for any airline that can legally pull this off. I wouldn't even think twice about using them even if the costs were higher (yet reasonable) and the schedules were inconvenient.
Jan 5, 2011 | 12:47 am
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DFW, SAT, AUS, HOU, IAH, OKC, SHV, ELP, TUL, LIT
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It would seem that the possibilities are almost endless, although there must be things I am not considering. I'm waiting for the catch. I wonder how fast the planes are able to fly. Flight time could be a limiting factor.
Jan 5, 2011 | 3:53 am
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First irony is that first everyone got out of GA during the melt-down (such as the Big-3 when going to Congress), and now everyone is scrambling to get back in.
Next up is that this was already tried in Florida on a grand scale, an intra-state air-taxi service. Committed to some huge airplane purchase, then business didn't materialize, and they basically took the airplane manufacturer with them (will dig up the refs when time permits).
Living in the mid-west, there's a ton of mid-point destinations that are too far to drive quickly, yet are close enough that "commercial" isn't required.
This is going to lead to an interesting logic loop. If some airplanes are threats and some aren't, then why are some pax threats and others aren't?
Next up is that this was already tried in Florida on a grand scale, an intra-state air-taxi service. Committed to some huge airplane purchase, then business didn't materialize, and they basically took the airplane manufacturer with them (will dig up the refs when time permits).
Living in the mid-west, there's a ton of mid-point destinations that are too far to drive quickly, yet are close enough that "commercial" isn't required.
This is going to lead to an interesting logic loop. If some airplanes are threats and some aren't, then why are some pax threats and others aren't?
Jan 6, 2011 | 12:00 am
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There used to be a lot more of this; I remember flights from little towns coming to Stapleton in Denver where the pax were screened AFTER the flight on their way into the concourse to catch their connecting flights. I'm not sure if the rule changed or if the small planes got bigger.