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-   -   EPIC to host TSA workshop ["Stripping of Freedom"] Jan. 6, 2011 in D.C. (https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/practical-travel-safety-security-issues/1164350-epic-host-tsa-workshop-stripping-freedom-jan-6-2011-d-c.html)

onlyairfare Jan 6, 2011 9:42 am

Wow! In the past Alioto has imposed some limits (effectiveness) on security scanning. Promising. Many have expressed concern that SCOTUS would likely side with "anything for security."

divemistressofthedark Jan 6, 2011 9:51 am

Ginger McCall from EPIC: "Apparently TSA doesn't think it's accountable to the public for the money it spends and the rights that it violates."

"TSA misrepresents the capabilities of the machines"

"There has to be escalation of methods"

She is AWESOME. ^ Can I vote for her for Congress? :P

jdp23 Jan 6, 2011 9:54 am

Totally agreed about how great Ginger is.

Jeff Rosen's article in the Washington Post has a lot of information, including the details on the case Alito was involved in.

onlyairfare Jan 6, 2011 10:01 am

Jon, thank you so much for all you have done. And especially for the "Notes" you have posted. That is now linked at several internet sites I visit frequently, so my friends appreciate this too.

littlesheep Jan 6, 2011 10:05 am

Forty people????

That's very depressing.

onlyairfare Jan 6, 2011 10:16 am

I don't think 40 people is so bad, given the "Big Event" - new Congress opening - as well as relatively short notice, an obscure topic in the eyes of many, and its availability through sources other than being in the room.

I was going to make the 14 hour drive round-trip myself but I am ill, had to stay home. But I can still be there via internet!

littlesheep Jan 6, 2011 10:19 am

Are there any journalists there, I wonder?

FliesWay2Much Jan 6, 2011 10:19 am


Originally Posted by littlesheep (Post 15596457)
Forty people????

That's very depressing.

Betcha' Blogdad Bob latches on to this number and claims that nobody cares...

TXagogo Jan 6, 2011 10:23 am


Originally Posted by divemistressofthedark (Post 15596331)
Ginger McCall from EPIC: "Apparently TSA doesn't think it's accountable to the public for the money it spends and the rights that it violates."

"TSA misrepresents the capabilities of the machines"

"There has to be escalation of methods"

She is AWESOME. ^ Can I vote for her for Congress? :P

And not bad to look at either :D

But in all seriousness, she was very impressive. Her points were clear, consice, and powerful (IMO).

divemistressofthedark Jan 6, 2011 10:46 am

It's not that nobody cares. It's that we're not flying these days, some of us would have had to drive thousands of miles, and it's just not easy to do that with only a couple weeks' notice. (Not attempting to blame anyone here for any of this, except Blogdad Bob :D)

Still nothing on C-Span and I *have* to leave for my meeting, have played hooky all morning! Thanks a million for the notes, Jon.

littlesheep Jan 6, 2011 10:47 am

James Babb and Edward Luttwak were very impressive (from the bit I could see between interruptions).

I would really like to know if journalists from any major newspaper attended this. I guess we'll have to wait and see.

littlesheep Jan 6, 2011 10:50 am

I'm not wondering about non-locals (like me) or people who frequent this forum in general. I'm wondering about locals and people who are not that aware. I guess being unaware precludes attendance...

wendyg Jan 6, 2011 11:11 am

40 when I posted that, 50 or more later. It's varying through the day. But the online presence is big and they've got C-Span. So overall it's well-attended.

One of the first questions put to Michael Roberts was how he got here toda. (He drove.) But it is an irony that the only way you can attend an event to protest against the TSA is to fly...

wg

NotaCriminal Jan 6, 2011 11:30 am


Originally Posted by TXagogo (Post 15596105)
James Babb is fantastic. I am adding www.wewontfly.com to my favorites list on my laptop and have already "liked" it on facebook.

His page/posts are also RSS reader-friendly; he and his guests posters post several times a week.

FriendlySkies Jan 6, 2011 11:39 am


Originally Posted by TXagogo (Post 15595326)
Stream is good but I've lost in twice in 30 minutes. Is anyone else having this problem. Refreshing does not help.

A little slow for me, but I am now listening to Bruce Schneier..^


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