EPIC to host TSA workshop ["Stripping of Freedom"] Jan. 6, 2011 in D.C.
http://epic.org/events/tsa/
"The Stripping of Freedom: A Careful Scan of TSA Procedures" January 6, 2011 The Carnegie Institute for Science 1530 P St., NW Washington, DC Featured Speakers: Ralph Nader Rep. Jason Chaffetz (invited) Rep. Rush Holt (invited) Nadhira Al-Khalili David Greenfield Kate Hanni Prof. Jeffrey Rosen Bruce Schneier This one-day public conference will be devoted to an assessment of the TSA airport security procedures and recommendations for reform. Experts in law, aviation security, and health safety, advocates for flyers rights, privacy protection, and religious freedom, as well as lawmakers and policy advisors will participate in the event. The event will also include a rich media display, with images from airport protests, YouTube videos, and campaign materials. |
If I could find a cheap ticket, I would consider going! Would DCA be the closest airport?
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Originally Posted by FriendlySkies
(Post 15525673)
If I could find a cheap ticket, I would consider going! Would DCA be the closest airport?
I wouldn't be surprised for one nanosecond that DHS or TSA "counterintelligence" people will infiltrate the meeting. The most likely source of TSA infiltrators would be SPOTNiks or FAMs. Nappy could also decide to send in a few plain-clothes Secret Service people. Presence of FBI counterintelligence ops people would require DHS to request support from DOJ. I wouldn't expect the request to be made, mostly out of pride and because Nappy couldn't possibly convince Holder that subversive activities would be taking place. If you go, be very careful about exchanging business cards with anyone who purports to work for a company you've never heard of or anyone who asks a lot of strange questions. If you see someone picking up several copies of an attendee list or people who generally don't fit, try to snap a discrete picture. Conversely, if there are people going out of their way to avoid being in any sort of picture or video of the conference, this should send up flags. This isn't tinfoil hat stuff in the least. I've seen it happen in other contexts over the years. |
Originally Posted by FliesWay2Much
(Post 15525964)
I wouldn't be surprised for one nanosecond that DHS or TSA "counterintelligence" people will infiltrate the meeting. The most likely source of TSA infiltrators would be SPOTNiks or FAMs. Nappy could also decide to send in a few plain-clothes Secret Service people. Presence of FBI counterintelligence ops people would require DHS to request support from DOJ. I wouldn't expect the request to be made, mostly out of pride and because Nappy couldn't possibly convince Holder that subversive activities would be taking place.
If you go, be very careful about exchanging business cards with anyone who purports to work for a company you've never heard of or anyone who asks a lot of strange questions. If you see someone picking up several copies of an attendee list or people who generally don't fit, try to snap a discrete picture. Conversely, if there are people going out of their way to avoid being in any sort of picture or video of the conference, this should send up flags. This isn't tinfoil hat stuff in the least. I've seen it happen in other contexts over the years. |
Originally Posted by FliesWay2Much
(Post 15525964)
I wouldn't be surprised for one nanosecond that DHS or TSA "counterintelligence" people will infiltrate the meeting. The most likely source of TSA infiltrators would be SPOTNiks or FAMs. Nappy could also decide to send in a few plain-clothes Secret Service people. Presence of FBI counterintelligence ops people would require DHS to request support from DOJ. I wouldn't expect the request to be made, mostly out of pride and because Nappy couldn't possibly convince Holder that subversive activities would be taking place.
If you go, be very careful about exchanging business cards with anyone who purports to work for a company you've never heard of or anyone who asks a lot of strange questions. If you see someone picking up several copies of an attendee list or people who generally don't fit, try to snap a discrete picture. Conversely, if there are people going out of their way to avoid being in any sort of picture or video of the conference, this should send up flags. This isn't tinfoil hat stuff in the least. I've seen it happen in other contexts over the years. |
Originally Posted by wb9tio
(Post 15527379)
If your gut tells you something isn't right with some of the folks who are there such as what you described they need to be publicly outed! Their stench needs to be out in the open.
Something like this should be suggested to EPIC. |
The EPIC folks have been to Defcon...
wg |
Unfortunately, it looks as though I will not be able to go to the event. Tickets were North of $650 :eek:
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Originally Posted by FliesWay2Much
(Post 15525964)
I wouldn't be surprised for one nanosecond that DHS or TSA "counterintelligence" people will infiltrate the meeting. The most likely source of TSA infiltrators would be SPOTNiks or FAMs. Nappy could also decide to send in a few plain-clothes Secret Service people. Presence of FBI counterintelligence ops people would require DHS to request support from DOJ. I wouldn't expect the request to be made, mostly out of pride and because Nappy couldn't possibly convince Holder that subversive activities would be taking place.
If you go, be very careful about exchanging business cards with anyone who purports to work for a company you've never heard of or anyone who asks a lot of strange questions. If you see someone picking up several copies of an attendee list or people who generally don't fit, try to snap a discrete picture. Conversely, if there are people going out of their way to avoid being in any sort of picture or video of the conference, this should send up flags. This isn't tinfoil hat stuff in the least. I've seen it happen in other contexts over the years. Yep, me too. |
Tickets to the event? Or airline tickets were $650??
Hopefully if it's the former, EPIC will be throwing registration fees into the kitty to put toward further legal actions against TSA. |
Originally Posted by divemistressofthedark
(Post 15527882)
Tickets to the event? Or airline tickets were $650??
Hopefully if it's the former, EPIC will be throwing registration fees into the kitty to put toward further legal actions against TSA. |
Where are you? Can you fly WN from MCI-BWI? (Rock chalk, by the way...I'm a grad, as is Mr. Dive...)
You can take a MARC train from BWI to Union Station in D.C. (where you can board the Metro) for around $15. It's not a bad trip, at all. |
Originally Posted by divemistressofthedark
(Post 15527900)
Where are you? Can you fly WN from MCI-BWI? (Rock chalk, by the way...I'm a grad, as is Mr. Dive...)
Rock Chalk :) ^ |
If it weren't my second day of teaching for winter quarter, I'd be there with bells on ... and my "Land of the free?" t-shirt with Lady Liberty's backscatter image.
I'll pass the word on to my DC friends, many of whom are opposed to the TSA's (and the Patriot Act's) intrusive policies. |
Thanks for pointing out the event. I hope EPIC considers streaming the event online for people who can't be there in person. Streaming would also make a statement--people would be able to "attend" the event without subjecting themselves to the TSA. I've sent an email to EPIC about this and suggest that others who agree send an email as well.
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