Wallet removal
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Departing RDU last month, the barker near the NoS/WTMD was telling pax to remove wallets for the NoS. Tming it correctly, I avoided the NoS and also kept my wallter in my back pocket. In fact, I always keep it back there. Phones are buried in the bottom of my bag after I clear TDC...
#17
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I stopped using zip-ties after being threatened with arrest by the BWI FSD a few months ago due to my electrician's scissors (he saw me clipping a couple of the zip-ties and went on a tirade about them until the MdTA cop told him he wouldn't arrest me for having an object that just went through screening and was cleared by TSA).
I found some non-TSA small Master Lock combination locks that have shanks long enough to permit me to close just about every compartment on both my roller and backpack. I also bought a small rigid first-aid kit which, when emptied, is just big enough for all of my credentials, passport, cash and car keys. This gets double locked and buried in a bottom section of my backpack immediately after I go through the TDC.
I found some non-TSA small Master Lock combination locks that have shanks long enough to permit me to close just about every compartment on both my roller and backpack. I also bought a small rigid first-aid kit which, when emptied, is just big enough for all of my credentials, passport, cash and car keys. This gets double locked and buried in a bottom section of my backpack immediately after I go through the TDC.
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#21

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I'm not sure that would work. I'm in the camp that locks my carry on bags, but a good friend of mine was told that he would have to put his cash throughh the x-ray when he was holding it.
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#23
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"scanner" is a misnomer.
The machines don't scan anything.
Using ionization radiation, they take a photo of you naked.
Then the viewer visually scans the photo of your naked body to see if anything looks amiss. If they do, then they radio down to the grope-point and have a groper rubdown the offending area to determine what the item is.
The TSA pervert in the private booth is the scanner, not the machine.
The machines don't scan anything.
Using ionization radiation, they take a photo of you naked.
Then the viewer visually scans the photo of your naked body to see if anything looks amiss. If they do, then they radio down to the grope-point and have a groper rubdown the offending area to determine what the item is.
The TSA pervert in the private booth is the scanner, not the machine.
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It used to be and they asked, this is even pre-TSA for screening all metal out of your pockets. But now especially if you are going through the new machines they want everthing out, even money, not change bills which are a very dangerous thing to carry.
#25
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OK, once again I'm not getting it. At CDG. I went thru the metal detector. It beeped. I had already taken off all metal things, including my belt, that I was wearing. The guy wanded me. It went off at hip level on my left side. I reached down there and realized it was a security wallet I was using that hung inside my jeans. It had a clip that was metal. I pulled it out and threw it on the conveyor. The guy wanded again, all clear, we both laugh, and I proceed.
So now I'm wondering: You step into the scanner. The spook sees an "anomaly" in your pocket area. You pull out the wallet. Oh, that's all it is. You proceed?
What am I missing here? In searching for anomalies, they are trying to PREVENT ones that are totally innocent?
So now I'm wondering: You step into the scanner. The spook sees an "anomaly" in your pocket area. You pull out the wallet. Oh, that's all it is. You proceed?
What am I missing here? In searching for anomalies, they are trying to PREVENT ones that are totally innocent?
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So now I'm wondering: You step into the scanner. The spook sees an "anomaly" in your pocket area. You pull out the wallet. Oh, that's all it is. You proceed?
What am I missing here? In searching for anomalies, they are trying to PREVENT ones that are totally innocent?
What am I missing here? In searching for anomalies, they are trying to PREVENT ones that are totally innocent?
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I don't usually read TS&S so I missed this topic. Last July, I went through a patdown similar to the one's everyone is complaining about. I didn't go through the metal detector because I was in a wheelchair. During the patdown the agent asked me to remove my wallet. He said that it had to go through the machine. I had to sit there and watch him put it in the tray and run it through the machine for me. I could not see from the place where I was sitting during the patdown. He brought it back, nothing missing. At the time there were no NoS Scanners yet he still said it was required. This leads me to believe that the request to put the wallet through in the OP had nothing to do with the scanner. Wouldn't they have done the same thing for him if he went through a pat down instead, or am I just special?
#28
Join Date: Oct 2010
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I went through the NoS with my wallet in my hand, since it was too late to shove it in my bag to be x-rayed. (I'd never taken off my wallet before.) After the NoS they examined every facet of my wallet by hand.
#29
Join Date: Mar 2010
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Was that Philip Burdette? I had a run in with him last year. He was just the DFSD then, but he is an egotistical, pompous jerk. Report him, I did.
#30
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Yeah, it is pretty stupid. That is another area that the WTMD/xray would actually be better (could detect a razor blade at least, or one of those credit card blades). Flying through BOS yesterday I got groped and the guy just does a ridiculous cursory rifling through the wallet. What are they looking for?

