Carry On Problems and Procedure
Nov 23, 2010, 10:03 am
#1
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Carry On Problems and Procedure
Hello
1. As for watching the carry on's:
Since I am traveling with my 8yr old and wife I figured I would let her go first with non valuable items in her carry on. Next our child (which we will OPT out for him for safety reasons). This way she can watch my carry on's with our laptop and cell phones. What do you all think?
2. Question on OPT Out: If my wife and I decide to also OPT out, and do the pat down, can we still keep our ID, cash, Credit cards and cash on us?
3. Question on Jewelry: My wife can not remove her wedding ring. It physically will not come off?? Does this mean automatic pat down whether we OPT out or not?
4. If I OPT out can I keep my watch on?
Thanks and GOD bless
Thanks
1. As for watching the carry on's:
Since I am traveling with my 8yr old and wife I figured I would let her go first with non valuable items in her carry on. Next our child (which we will OPT out for him for safety reasons). This way she can watch my carry on's with our laptop and cell phones. What do you all think?
2. Question on OPT Out: If my wife and I decide to also OPT out, and do the pat down, can we still keep our ID, cash, Credit cards and cash on us?
3. Question on Jewelry: My wife can not remove her wedding ring. It physically will not come off?? Does this mean automatic pat down whether we OPT out or not?
4. If I OPT out can I keep my watch on?
Thanks and GOD bless
Thanks
Nov 23, 2010, 10:05 am
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1. OK.
2. No. Emphatically no.
3. Probably not an issue.
4. I've seen this handled both ways. Unpredictable.
Bruce
2. No. Emphatically no.
3. Probably not an issue.
4. I've seen this handled both ways. Unpredictable.
Bruce
Nov 23, 2010, 3:18 pm
#3
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Hello
We are getting conflicting feedback and news articles etc on the Pat Downs.
If my wife and I decide to OPT out, and do the pat down, can we still keep our ID, cash, Credit cards,watch and cash on us?
At the very least will they let us hold them in our hands. I do not want to put these items thru the tray or carry on. Whats to stop a TSA agent to take my watch out of my carry on while I am being groped?
If they wont let us hold them in our hands than I will go for the scanner.
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Nov 23, 2010, 4:38 pm
#4
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I'm hearing that the rule is nothing in your pockets, and nothing in your hands, when you pass through the WTMD/AIT or get a pat-down. The best you can do is keep eye contact with your personal items, while they are on the x-ray belt, or have them brought to you during the pat-down.
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Nov 23, 2010, 4:39 pm
#5
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Hello
We are getting conflicting feedback and news articles etc on the Pat Downs.
If my wife and I decide to OPT out, and do the pat down, can we still keep our ID, cash, Credit cards,watch and cash on us?
At the very least will they let us hold them in our hands. I do not want to put these items thru the tray or carry on. Whats to stop a TSA agent to take my watch out of my carry on while I am being groped?
If they wont let us hold them in our hands than I will go for the scanner.
We are getting conflicting feedback and news articles etc on the Pat Downs.
If my wife and I decide to OPT out, and do the pat down, can we still keep our ID, cash, Credit cards,watch and cash on us?
At the very least will they let us hold them in our hands. I do not want to put these items thru the tray or carry on. Whats to stop a TSA agent to take my watch out of my carry on while I am being groped?
If they wont let us hold them in our hands than I will go for the scanner.
So yes your luggage will be kept with you, but you will not be able to access it during the pat down.
Nov 23, 2010, 4:45 pm
#6
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I opted out yesterday because I would fail the scanner anyway. I was instructed to go meet an agent. He asked me to stand in one space. I told him I could not see my luggage and requested that it be kept in my line of site for the duration of the pat down. He had my luggage be retrieved and it was brought to my side. I was not allowed to touch it for the duration of the pat down and had to place all belongings--keys, wallet with it when I entered the private room.
So yes your luggage will be kept with you, but you will not be able to access it during the pat down.
So yes your luggage will be kept with you, but you will not be able to access it during the pat down.
Nov 23, 2010, 5:10 pm
#7
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If they need access they will have to wait for you.
There's going to be a huge market for whoever comes up with a carry on with a locking pocket.
Nov 23, 2010, 5:21 pm
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Nov 23, 2010, 5:24 pm
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My suggestion would also be to lock the pocket of your carry on that holds valuables. This is what we do.
If you are worried about what to do with the key or nail clippers (if you use zip ties), go pick up a small combination lock.
I've got a small key one and the key never sets off the WTMD in my pocket.
If you are worried about what to do with the key or nail clippers (if you use zip ties), go pick up a small combination lock.
I've got a small key one and the key never sets off the WTMD in my pocket.
Nov 23, 2010, 6:43 pm
#10
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I don't think procedures are being applied equally at all airports. When I opted out recently at Indianapolis, I was told to remove everything from my pockets, no one brought me my things off the X-ray belt, and I had to protest a bit in order to win the right to (sort of) keep an eye on my stuff abandoned on the belt during the pat-down.
I recommend you take everything out of your pockets and put it deep in your carry-on--and lock your carry-on shut--before you get in the security line. I'm also going to adopt the suggestion of cable locking my laptop to my backpack, though once my cable lock was confiscated as a potential weapon.
I recommend you take everything out of your pockets and put it deep in your carry-on--and lock your carry-on shut--before you get in the security line. I'm also going to adopt the suggestion of cable locking my laptop to my backpack, though once my cable lock was confiscated as a potential weapon.
Nov 23, 2010, 6:54 pm
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I don't think procedures are being applied equally at all airports. When I opted out recently at Indianapolis, I was told to remove everything from my pockets, no one brought me my things off the X-ray belt, and I had to protest a bit in order to win the right to (sort of) keep an eye on my stuff abandoned on the belt during the pat-down.
I strongly recommend that anything valuable be placed in your carry on bag in a hard-to-find location, at a minimum. Locking it is even better. I've got a small combination lock that works pretty well for my carry on bag, but my purse is another matter.
Nov 23, 2010, 7:31 pm
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So yes your luggage will be kept with you, but you will not be able to access it during the pat down.
Nov 23, 2010, 7:46 pm
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So true. Every 2 minutes, they announce that you should report unattended bags. I wonder what would happen if, once you heard that announcement, you told the TSA agent that your bags were unattended.
Nov 23, 2010, 9:38 pm
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Hello
1. As for watching the carry on's:
Since I am traveling with my 8yr old and wife I figured I would let her go first with non valuable items in her carry on. Next our child (which we will OPT out for him for safety reasons). This way she can watch my carry on's with our laptop and cell phones. What do you all think?
1. As for watching the carry on's:
Since I am traveling with my 8yr old and wife I figured I would let her go first with non valuable items in her carry on. Next our child (which we will OPT out for him for safety reasons). This way she can watch my carry on's with our laptop and cell phones. What do you all think?
3. Question on Jewelry: My wife can not remove her wedding ring. It physically will not come off?? Does this mean automatic pat down whether we OPT out or not?