What is the purpose of the 1-quart zip-lock bag?
Nov 18, 2010, 8:22 pm
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Nov 18, 2010, 8:32 pm
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I believe SATTSO when he says that's new policy as far as he knows. However I try to remember that virtually anything our resident TSOs post only reliably applies to their airport and not necessarily anywhere else. I won't feel confident enough to use a larger baggie until I see it on the website and I see the signage changing. Otherwise I'll still have to carry a quart-sized baggie and be prepared to shift everything if challenged. Sometimes it's just a really tight squeeze in the smaller baggie.
Apparently SAT still hasn't made it mandatory to remove watches and necklaces, but SEA recently put up signs requiring just that. The signs actually went up before the NoS's were in place. I understand they have decided it's easier to just have everyone take everything off. That way they can pull someone headed for the WTMD over to the NoS and not have any last minute scrambling to empty pockets, remove jewelry and watches, etc. that would be OK in the WTMD.
Apparently SAT still hasn't made it mandatory to remove watches and necklaces, but SEA recently put up signs requiring just that. The signs actually went up before the NoS's were in place. I understand they have decided it's easier to just have everyone take everything off. That way they can pull someone headed for the WTMD over to the NoS and not have any last minute scrambling to empty pockets, remove jewelry and watches, etc. that would be OK in the WTMD.
Nov 18, 2010, 8:33 pm
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We wasted millions giving TSOs new uniforms so they would have an image that would command more respect.
They would get a lot more respect if they exercised common sense at the checkpoint. I feel much safer with a TSO who is understands the 'mission' and the purpose behind the rules than I do with someone who can't be trusted to think (ie, a single one ounce bottle of hand lotion is confiscated if it isn't in the right size and type baggie).
Of course, behind/above TSOs who don't understand the mission and exercise judgment, there's a management structure who permits and abets that blind lack of understanding. Undermines the whole effort.
They would get a lot more respect if they exercised common sense at the checkpoint. I feel much safer with a TSO who is understands the 'mission' and the purpose behind the rules than I do with someone who can't be trusted to think (ie, a single one ounce bottle of hand lotion is confiscated if it isn't in the right size and type baggie).
Of course, behind/above TSOs who don't understand the mission and exercise judgment, there's a management structure who permits and abets that blind lack of understanding. Undermines the whole effort.
Nov 18, 2010, 8:39 pm
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Nope.
You see, you can have as many 3.4 oz snowglobes as you'd like, so long as they are clearly labeled by the manufacturer and fit comfortably in a Kippie. However, 1 snowglobe absent any other liquids that also fits comfortably in a Kippie is a bomb. Thanks for playing.
On a side note from personal experience, the manufacturers' labels are not entirely accurate, either. At one point I had 2 different brands of skin salve. One was made by the more commonly known Burt's Bees, the other from a small company in Hawai'i. The tins were exactly the same size, and came filled with exactly the same amount of salve. Only one was labeled 3.2 oz, and the other 4 oz. Yet TSA is willing to take the word of these containers at face value, regardless of what is inside. Stupid.
You see, you can have as many 3.4 oz snowglobes as you'd like, so long as they are clearly labeled by the manufacturer and fit comfortably in a Kippie. However, 1 snowglobe absent any other liquids that also fits comfortably in a Kippie is a bomb. Thanks for playing.
On a side note from personal experience, the manufacturers' labels are not entirely accurate, either. At one point I had 2 different brands of skin salve. One was made by the more commonly known Burt's Bees, the other from a small company in Hawai'i. The tins were exactly the same size, and came filled with exactly the same amount of salve. Only one was labeled 3.2 oz, and the other 4 oz. Yet TSA is willing to take the word of these containers at face value, regardless of what is inside. Stupid.
Nov 18, 2010, 8:59 pm
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If your snow globe fits inside the 1 qt. baggie, is it now magically legal to bring in the carryon??? I mean, they said they are not allowed because they contain an unknown quantity of liquid. Well, if it fits, shouldn't it ship??? Just goes to show the silliness of the baggie.
Nov 18, 2010, 9:06 pm
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Nov 19, 2010, 6:23 am
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It was said a few times in other threads that the issue with snow globes has to do with what they look like in the x-ray, not with anything inherent in the snow globe itself.
Nov 19, 2010, 6:29 am
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But if you force them to have to do that, then they need some coordination of these multiple people. Meaning communications, money, etc. You can bring intelligence and law enforcement resources to bear on those areas. As is being discussed in another thread, the checkpoint can't be the place where you thwart large plots: those need to be caught before before the checkpoint.
Nov 19, 2010, 6:37 am
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http://www.tsa.gov/travelers/holiday_travel.shtm
Additionally, TSA does not permit snow globes through the security checkpoint because they contain an undetermined amount of liquid.
Nov 19, 2010, 7:31 am
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Nov 19, 2010, 7:42 am
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I just wanted to commiserate with the original poster. I, too, had my mini-sized toothpaste confiscated a few months ago at DCA, for lack of a plastic ziploc to put it in. Apparently my Aquafresh was not safe just sitting in a gray circle 'loose change' container.
I did debate it a bit with the TSA employee. I lost.
Though, it used to be before the days of nude-o-scope, I would just put the toothpaste in my pocket and walk through the x-ray, since I could never remember to pack a ziploc. Now I've gone back to a ziploc, though.
I did debate it a bit with the TSA employee. I lost.
Though, it used to be before the days of nude-o-scope, I would just put the toothpaste in my pocket and walk through the x-ray, since I could never remember to pack a ziploc. Now I've gone back to a ziploc, though.
Nov 19, 2010, 8:11 am
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17 airports have chosen to use private security and not TSA. One in Florida this week is changing from TSA to private. May more follow suit.
Nov 19, 2010, 9:37 am
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Hey, I tried :-) I just thought of this with the latest snow globe/salsa/cranberry sauce PSA from TSA. If I want to take my favorite gravy to Grandma's house, I guess I'll try to pack as much as I can into the 100ml tubes and into the 1qt. baggie. Has anyone figured out how much liquid that would be???
The number of tubes you can fit in the bag is the real limit though.