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Old Oct 13, 2010, 8:08 am
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TSA: They've gone off the rails

Excellent news report on TSA. They're removing people's clothing in PUBLIC to search 16-year-old girls and 71-year-old men.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-jdDE6bFow

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TCHS...eature=related
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Old Oct 13, 2010, 8:18 am
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TSA: They've gone off the rails

Originally Posted by RosemaryT
Excellent news report on TSA. They're removing people's clothing in PUBLIC to search 16-year-old girls and 71-year-old men.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-jdDE6bFow

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TCHS...eature=related
Drat it - youtube is blocked for me!

Can you give us some kind of written summary?
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Old Oct 13, 2010, 8:29 am
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Originally Posted by doober
Drat it - youtube is blocked for me!

Can you give us some kind of written summary?
The first video talked about a few different experiences with TSA. First was a man that was in a wheelchair, that was searched in public view. He was given a pat-down, and had his hands swabbed. Next person was the guy that had TSA pull down his pants while doing a pat-down. This was in full public view Another instance was a 16 year old girl that had her leg amputated. Every time she flies, she alerts the screening clerks that her leg will alert, but they insist on groping her. Parents, both cops, commented how it unfair that they grope her under her bra, back of neck, etc when the only alarm is on their leg..



This video that I just found is interesting. A Screening Clerk is trying to play police office:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TasCW...eature=related
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Old Oct 13, 2010, 8:39 am
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Originally Posted by RosemaryT
Excellent news report on TSA. They're removing people's clothing in PUBLIC to search 16-year-old girls and 71-year-old men.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-jdDE6bFow

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TCHS...eature=related
Originally Posted by doober
Drat it - youtube is blocked for me!

Can you give us some kind of written summary?
The first one talks about the 71 y/o man whose pants came off while they were trying to clear his artificial knee and the 16 y/o girl who usually gets felt up while they are trying to clear her prosthetic leg.

The 2nd link discusses toddlers/young children and TSA. It shows a reporter's 3 y/o child melting down while the TSA attempts to screen her becase she set off the WTMD.
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Old Oct 13, 2010, 9:11 am
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Cops and video tape

That youtube posting (above) shows a man trying to record some incident at LAX. The TSA agent tells him that he must turn off the camera.

The cops in my city (and many other places) now have dashboard-mounted cams in their cruisers to record all interactions with the public. There's a reason for this. It helps settle disputes when court cases get into he said/she said.

Before police recruits can graduate out of the academy, they're required to take a civil liabilities course and in that course, they are counseled - by their own city attorneys - to BEHAVE AS THOUGH all of their actions, reactions and words are being taped because chances are good that they ARE being taped.

That's the rub. These TSA agents are NOT police, and they do not have this legal training that is required of real cops.

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Old Oct 13, 2010, 9:31 am
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VaHqD5OAYi0&NR=1


Defines TSA perfectly!

Originally Posted by RosemaryT
That youtube posting (above) shows a man trying to record some incident at LAX. The TSA agent tells him that he must turn off the camera.

The cops in my city (and many other places) now have dashboard-mounted cams in their cruisers to record all interactions with the public. There's a reason for this. It helps settle disputes when court cases get into he said/she said.

Before police recruits can graduate out of the academy, they're required to take a civil liabilities course and in that course, they are counseled - by their own city attorneys - to BEHAVE AS THOUGH all of their actions, reactions and words are being taped because chances are good that they ARE being taped.

That's the rub. These TSA agents are NOT police, and they do not have this legal training that is required of real cops.

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Old Oct 13, 2010, 10:04 am
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Hopefully, these videos are getting lots of hits.

Can links be put on "our" NoS websites?
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Old Oct 13, 2010, 12:43 pm
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TSA: They've gone off the rails

On the "Organized Resistance" thread, Boggie Dog posted this youtube video showing a bystander trying to record an incident at LAX. The TSA agent tells him that he must turn off the camera.

The cops in my city (and many other places) now have dashboard-mounted cams in their cruisers to record all interactions with the public. There's a reason for this. It helps settle disputes when court cases get into he said/she said.

Before police recruits can graduate out of the academy, they're required to take a civil liabilities course and in that course, they are counseled - by their own city attorneys - to BEHAVE AS THOUGH all of their actions, reactions and words are being taped because chances are good that they ARE being taped.

That's the rub. These TSA agents are NOT police, and they do not have this legal training that is required of real cops.

And there's this: TV News reporting on TSA removing people's clothing in PUBLIC to search a 71-year-old man and grope a 16-year-old girl.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-jdDE6bFow

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TCHS...eature=related

Where and when is this going to stop? Their authority is constantly expanding and their behavior is becoming ever more egregious.

Those of us who believe that our constitutional rights should be protected and preserved are outnumbered and it seems that the vox populi will tolerate *any* search and seizure "as long as we stay safe."

Where does this end?

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Old Oct 13, 2010, 1:41 pm
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Originally Posted by RosemaryT
Excellent news report on TSA. They're removing people's clothing in PUBLIC to search 16-year-old girls and 71-year-old men.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-jdDE6bFow

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TCHS...eature=related
These videos look to be two and one years old, respectively. Aren't they quite old news by now?
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Old Oct 13, 2010, 2:29 pm
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Hmm, all kind of stuff on YouTube I've never seen before.

Supervisiory screening clerk sleeping in LNS.

Dancing screening clerk at the checkpoint.

Screening clerks out on the town. "Trans in the house, y'all!"
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Old Oct 13, 2010, 4:25 pm
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The following I read on internet last week.

A female TSA was writting a blog on internet. She was told by her supervisors to stop doing it.
Before she quite she wrote this incident.

She had a female traveller who she had to pat down.
The woman was wearing a tanktop and a pair of pants. Something went of in the metal detector.

This traveller was very helpfull when she was told to stand still while she got frisked.
Before the TSA could do anything this woman she "I will help you out and make your job easier". And then she pulled up her top and showed that she didnt hide anything.

While the TSA started to tell her that she couldnt do that. The woman pulled down her pants.
All this in public.
TSA got speachless and didnt really say or do anything after that.
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Old Oct 13, 2010, 5:57 pm
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Originally Posted by tanja
The following I read on internet last week.

A female TSA was writting a blog on internet. She was told by her supervisors to stop doing it.
Before she quite she wrote this incident.

She had a female traveller who she had to pat down.
The woman was wearing a tanktop and a pair of pants. Something went of in the metal detector.

This traveller was very helpfull when she was told to stand still while she got frisked.
Before the TSA could do anything this woman she "I will help you out and make your job easier". And then she pulled up her top and showed that she didnt hide anything.

While the TSA started to tell her that she couldnt do that. The woman pulled down her pants.
All this in public.
TSA got speachless and didnt really say or do anything after that.
Speaking of TSAers writing on the internet, whatever happened to the seemingly decent screener who came here to try to answer some of our questions in a civil and non-condescending manner? I presume TSA got to him and told him to "drop it."
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Old Oct 13, 2010, 8:16 pm
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TSA: They've gone off the rails

They were off the rails from day one.
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Old Oct 13, 2010, 8:56 pm
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Originally Posted by doober
Drat it - youtube is blocked for me!

Can you give us some kind of written summary?
I think calling the TSA the Gestapo is too kind.

Doober, are you in China? You tube is blocked there.
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Old Oct 13, 2010, 9:37 pm
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Originally Posted by doober
Speaking of TSAers writing on the internet, whatever happened to the seemingly decent screener who came here to try to answer some of our questions in a civil and non-condescending manner? I presume TSA got to him and told him to "drop it."
If you mean Anon1934, he joined FT on August 3, started a thread offering to answer questions, posted 40 times, and has not been heard from since August 6. His last post said he was "watching his back."

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They were off the rails from day one.
[wishful thinking] "...tarred and feathered and rode out of town on a rail." [/wishful thinking]

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