How many TSO's, LTSO'S, STSO'S, Leo's, BDO's etc. are on this forum?
Oct 12, 2010, 10:34 am
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Respect, as well as enmity, is earned. In this case the enmity is well earned.
And you do?
The ignorant ones are those who think that 9/11 had anything to do with screening failures (it didn't, the 9/11 hijackers met the screening standards that were in effect at that time), and will willingly give up any & all of their dignity & civil liberties in the pursuit of "security".
And you do?
The ignorant ones are those who think that 9/11 had anything to do with screening failures (it didn't, the 9/11 hijackers met the screening standards that were in effect at that time), and will willingly give up any & all of their dignity & civil liberties in the pursuit of "security".
Oct 12, 2010, 10:38 am
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I would say there's much more hostility and ignorance in evidence at the average TSA checkpoints, most of it generated by TSOs. The testimony here and elsewhere is overwhleming.
And I doubt anyone here would second-guess TSA if there were another attack on our country (what is it with "homeland" all the time? Doesn't it sound Orwellian? What's wrong with "country"?)... as nobody here believes most TSA initiatives reduce the odds of such an attack in the first place. This is theatre criticism.
And I doubt anyone here would second-guess TSA if there were another attack on our country (what is it with "homeland" all the time? Doesn't it sound Orwellian? What's wrong with "country"?)... as nobody here believes most TSA initiatives reduce the odds of such an attack in the first place. This is theatre criticism.
Oct 12, 2010, 10:48 am
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Wow.
The ones that are the hostile and ignorant are the ones who would be the first to scream that TSA wasn't doing their job if we had an attack on our homeland....it is quite sad......
Actually, hostility and ignorance do NOT seem to go hand in hand in this anger toward the TSA. I'd say it's the intelligent folks - those nuts who have some familiarity with the constitution and fourth amendment rights - that are entering their protests over the TSA. (Darn, wish I could commission a poll asking people their IQ or highest educational level attained!
Wouldn't that be an interesting poll?)
Oct 12, 2010, 12:04 pm
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Oct 13, 2010, 11:40 am
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Combined, there are about five to seven that infrequently contribute, and about three regulars. Most are screeners, two who moved from screener to the office, one is a lead, another one is a supervisor. One is a BDO, and there are about three FAMs who are a glutton for punishment.
The environment here has gotten very hostile over the last couple of years, so most of them contribute once in a blue moon. Suspicion that one of them has two logins.
There is also one regular who works for the Canadian TSA equivalent.
But there are a LOT more lurkers, from the rank-and-file to folks at DHS and TSA HQ who read this forum.
The environment here has gotten very hostile over the last couple of years, so most of them contribute once in a blue moon. Suspicion that one of them has two logins.
There is also one regular who works for the Canadian TSA equivalent.
But there are a LOT more lurkers, from the rank-and-file to folks at DHS and TSA HQ who read this forum.
Oct 13, 2010, 12:17 pm
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There was at least one poster who was a TSA screener who retroactively deleted all of his posts. I am sure that this FT'er had valid reasons for doing so (and this is not the time or place to speculate about it), but it was a bit silly, since many of the deleted posts had been quoted by other posters, and thus still quite visible.
But there's a second one that has been surreptitiously doing the same thing.
Oct 14, 2010, 7:44 am
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No "hit and run" poster here it seems the hostility that is directed to TSA and TSO's is from being treated disrespectful at checkpoints. For that, the TSO is directly responsible NOT TSA. I actually am not here to banter uglies back and forth but to say that I am thankful each time I am on a airplane that I feel safe. If you (all of you) except for LessO2 want to bash me for expressing my opinion then so be it.....
It seems to me that we all have had at one time or another had bad experiences whether it be with checkpoints at airports or other transportation vessels......I just voice what is my opinion and thankfully I am thick skinned
So, bash away......Oh, btw, I had real life things to do and that is why I didn't post for the last few days
it seems the hostility that is directed to TSA and TSO's is from being treated disrespectful at checkpoints. For that, the TSO is directly responsible NOT TSA. I actually am not here to banter uglies back and forth but to say that I am thankful each time I am on a airplane that I feel safe. If you (all of you) except for LessO2 want to bash me for expressing my opinion then so be it.....It seems to me that we all have had at one time or another had bad experiences whether it be with checkpoints at airports or other transportation vessels......I just voice what is my opinion and thankfully I am thick skinned
So, bash away......Oh, btw, I had real life things to do and that is why I didn't post for the last few days
Oct 14, 2010, 7:47 am
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No "hit and run" poster here it seems the hostility that is directed to TSA and TSO's is from being treated disrespectful at checkpoints. For that, the TSO is directly responsible NOT TSA. I actually am not here to banter uglies back and forth but to say that I am thankful each time I am on a airplane that I feel safe. If you (all of you) except for LessO2 want to bash me for expressing my opinion then so be it.....
It seems to me that we all have had at one time or another had bad experiences whether it be with checkpoints at airports or other transportation vessels......I just voice what is my opinion and thankfully I am thick skinned
So, bash away......Oh, btw, I had real life things to do and that is why I didn't post for the last few days
it seems the hostility that is directed to TSA and TSO's is from being treated disrespectful at checkpoints. For that, the TSO is directly responsible NOT TSA. I actually am not here to banter uglies back and forth but to say that I am thankful each time I am on a airplane that I feel safe. If you (all of you) except for LessO2 want to bash me for expressing my opinion then so be it.....It seems to me that we all have had at one time or another had bad experiences whether it be with checkpoints at airports or other transportation vessels......I just voice what is my opinion and thankfully I am thick skinned
So, bash away......Oh, btw, I had real life things to do and that is why I didn't post for the last few days
All the TSA has done is make it more difficult for a US Citizen to move with his own country.
The TSA has done nothing to make the air safer. In fact, I'll dare say they've done more to make it less safe.
But you believe what you want.
Oct 14, 2010, 7:51 am
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so, why do you feel safe each time you are on an airplane?
Is it that you feel confident the aircraft maintenance crew have done their job?
That the refuelers have put the correct fuel into the tanks?
The pilot is well trained and certified?
The Flight Attendants are well trained and certified?
Your seat meets safety standards?
Your seat belt meets safety standards?
Your underpants elastic is 'fit for purpose'?
All these things are mandated and measurable, the TSA circus and TSO charade, not so much...
Is it that you feel confident the aircraft maintenance crew have done their job?
That the refuelers have put the correct fuel into the tanks?
The pilot is well trained and certified?
The Flight Attendants are well trained and certified?
Your seat meets safety standards?
Your seat belt meets safety standards?
Your underpants elastic is 'fit for purpose'?
All these things are mandated and measurable, the TSA circus and TSO charade, not so much...
Oct 14, 2010, 7:58 am
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No "hit and run" poster here it seems the hostility that is directed to TSA and TSO's is from being treated disrespectful at checkpoints. For that, the TSO is directly responsible NOT TSA. I actually am not here to banter uglies back and forth but to say that I am thankful each time I am on a airplane that I feel safe. If you (all of you) except for LessO2 want to bash me for expressing my opinion then so be it.....
It seems to me that we all have had at one time or another had bad experiences whether it be with checkpoints at airports or other transportation vessels......I just voice what is my opinion and thankfully I am thick skinned
So, bash away......Oh, btw, I had real life things to do and that is why I didn't post for the last few days
it seems the hostility that is directed to TSA and TSO's is from being treated disrespectful at checkpoints. For that, the TSO is directly responsible NOT TSA. I actually am not here to banter uglies back and forth but to say that I am thankful each time I am on a airplane that I feel safe. If you (all of you) except for LessO2 want to bash me for expressing my opinion then so be it.....It seems to me that we all have had at one time or another had bad experiences whether it be with checkpoints at airports or other transportation vessels......I just voice what is my opinion and thankfully I am thick skinned
So, bash away......Oh, btw, I had real life things to do and that is why I didn't post for the last few days
You also need to remember that the actions and attitudes of screeners are driven from the top down, as with any organization. If top management doesn't care, neither will the lowest level personnel.
Oct 14, 2010, 7:59 am
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No "hit and run" poster here it seems the hostility that is directed to TSA and TSO's is from being treated disrespectful at checkpoints. For that, the TSO is directly responsible NOT TSA. I actually am not here to banter uglies back and forth but to say that I am thankful each time I am on a airplane that I feel safe. If you (all of you) except for LessO2 want to bash me for expressing my opinion then so be it.....
It seems to me that we all have had at one time or another had bad experiences whether it be with checkpoints at airports or other transportation vessels......I just voice what is my opinion and thankfully I am thick skinned
So, bash away......Oh, btw, I had real life things to do and that is why I didn't post for the last few days
it seems the hostility that is directed to TSA and TSO's is from being treated disrespectful at checkpoints. For that, the TSO is directly responsible NOT TSA. I actually am not here to banter uglies back and forth but to say that I am thankful each time I am on a airplane that I feel safe. If you (all of you) except for LessO2 want to bash me for expressing my opinion then so be it.....It seems to me that we all have had at one time or another had bad experiences whether it be with checkpoints at airports or other transportation vessels......I just voice what is my opinion and thankfully I am thick skinned
So, bash away......Oh, btw, I had real life things to do and that is why I didn't post for the last few days
TSA does not screen all cargo.
TSA does not screen all of the workers on the ramp or in the sterile areas of the airports.
TSA does not screen airport vehicles when they enter the airport operation areas.
The risk is as much present today just as it was 10 years ago. Any person wishing to attack commercial aviation will exploit the weaknesses that are available and TSA places a dinner plate full of opportunities to would be terrorist.
What you see that makes you feel safe is mostly show and does not add much to the safety quotient.
Oct 14, 2010, 8:38 am
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I've been a moderator in this forum since it opened for business in 2004 and have seen well over 200 TSA/DHS FT'ers run out of town on a rail.
It seems to me we'd want to encourage a few to stay around so that we could cuss and discuss TS/S issues with them rather than just argue amongst ourselves.
But that's just me I guess.
Oct 14, 2010, 8:43 am
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Unfortunately, this forum has been very unwelcoming and hostile to any and all TSA/DHS employees from Day One and not just the last couple of years.
I've been a moderator in this forum since it opened for business in 2004 and have seen well over 200 TSA/DHS FT'ers run out of town on a rail.
It seems to me we'd want to encourage a few to stay around so that we could cuss and discuss TS/S issues with them rather than just argue amongst ourselves.
But that's just me I guess.
I've been a moderator in this forum since it opened for business in 2004 and have seen well over 200 TSA/DHS FT'ers run out of town on a rail.
It seems to me we'd want to encourage a few to stay around so that we could cuss and discuss TS/S issues with them rather than just argue amongst ourselves.
But that's just me I guess.