View Poll Results: Are you male or female? It's a serious question.
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Sex please?
Oct 11, 2010, 7:49 pm
#16
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: LAS
Posts: 1,279
Male... always opt out. Always say why loudly enough for a bunch of people to hear about it.
In regard to the more general question, I believe females are more likely to believe/hope/wish that the NOS actually improves security. Men know that a locked cockpit and a plane full of ready-to-kick-butt passengers sufficiently solves the hijacking problem.
In regard to the more general question, I believe females are more likely to believe/hope/wish that the NOS actually improves security. Men know that a locked cockpit and a plane full of ready-to-kick-butt passengers sufficiently solves the hijacking problem.
Oct 11, 2010, 7:53 pm
#18
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: PBI
Programs: DL 2.8 MM/PM, AA MM/GLD, Marriott LT Platinum, Hilton Gold
Posts: 1,746
Early 30's female over here. Single, no kids, and I travel a too much for work and not enough for pleasure. I will not go into a NoS. Case closed. End of story. Personally, my refusal to do so is a mixture of the privacy issue, the possible data leak issues, and the radiation. My biggest gripe however, is that I don't believe that a US citizen should be subjected to this kind of scrutiny when travelling within our own borders 
Or being frisked without probable cause...
Longtime female road warrioress here and I find the entire notion of being required to submit to a strip search or allowing a government employee to run their hands over my body simply to get on an airplane to be bizarre. Cannot fathom how anyone can find this remotely acceptable.
Oct 11, 2010, 7:55 pm
#19
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: DFW
Posts: 28,113
Male... always opt out. Always say why loudly enough for a bunch of people to hear about it.
In regard to the more general question, I believe females are more likely to believe/hope/wish that the NOS actually improves security. Men know that a locked cockpit and a plane full of ready-to-kick-butt passengers sufficiently solves the hijacking problem.
In regard to the more general question, I believe females are more likely to believe/hope/wish that the NOS actually improves security. Men know that a locked cockpit and a plane full of ready-to-kick-butt passengers sufficiently solves the hijacking problem.
I wonder if females are more adverse to pat downs than males?
TSA can FO before I surrender!
Oct 11, 2010, 7:58 pm
#20
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: BUF/YYZ
Programs: UA, CO, AA
Posts: 328
get over yourselves...who cares about these scans.
all i care about is getting through the TSA charades as fast as possible
if you are so ashamed of you bodies that you cant walk through the scan, maybe you should consider that you are doing something wrong taking care of yourself.
....and what is the fear anyway...that theres a fat sloppy TSA agent behind the screen laughing at you? ....you are really wasting your energy
all i care about is getting through the TSA charades as fast as possible
if you are so ashamed of you bodies that you cant walk through the scan, maybe you should consider that you are doing something wrong taking care of yourself.
....and what is the fear anyway...that theres a fat sloppy TSA agent behind the screen laughing at you? ....you are really wasting your energy
Oct 11, 2010, 8:01 pm
#21
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Northeast Kansas | Colorado Native
Programs: Amex Gold/Plat, UA *G, Hyatt Globalist, Marriott LT Gold, NEXUS, TSA Disparager Unobtanium
Posts: 21,605
get over yourselves...who cares about these scans.
all i care about is getting through the TSA charades as fast as possible
if you are so ashamed of you bodies that you cant walk through the scan, maybe you should consider that you are doing something wrong taking care of yourself.
....and what is the fear anyway...that theres a fat sloppy TSA agent behind the screen laughing at you? ....you are really wasting your energy
all i care about is getting through the TSA charades as fast as possible
if you are so ashamed of you bodies that you cant walk through the scan, maybe you should consider that you are doing something wrong taking care of yourself.
....and what is the fear anyway...that theres a fat sloppy TSA agent behind the screen laughing at you? ....you are really wasting your energy
Nobody said that we are ashamed of our bodies. If you bother to read the countless sources available, you would know that there are multiple reasons that we refuse to be strip-searched by the government.
Oct 11, 2010, 8:03 pm
#22
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: CLT
Posts: 7,249
get over yourselves...who cares about these scans.
all i care about is getting through the TSA charades as fast as possible
if you are so ashamed of you bodies that you cant walk through the scan, maybe you should consider that you are doing something wrong taking care of yourself.
....and what is the fear anyway...that theres a fat sloppy TSA agent behind the screen laughing at you? ....you are really wasting your energy
all i care about is getting through the TSA charades as fast as possible
if you are so ashamed of you bodies that you cant walk through the scan, maybe you should consider that you are doing something wrong taking care of yourself.
....and what is the fear anyway...that theres a fat sloppy TSA agent behind the screen laughing at you? ....you are really wasting your energy
I, like others here, are standing up to this whittling away of our liberties. Check points on highways, ID required* to fly, naked pictures required for domestic travel...it isn't for safety and doesn't make us safer. All they have found are drugs and a many have stated that the NoS wouldn't have detected the explosives on the christmas bomber to DTW.
Do I care about naked pictures? no, not really. I rarely adequately cover to check my mail, but I do care about standing up now while I still can.
Oct 11, 2010, 8:05 pm
#23
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Inland Empire!
Programs: NW Plat (formerly), UA 1K, Hilton Silver, Hyatt Plat
Posts: 2,917
I am a female, and have opted out for the one and only occasion that there was a NoS at the checkpoint. I expect that I will opt out for every occasion.
It's the principle here, not the digital strip search that's the issue.
It's the principle here, not the digital strip search that's the issue.
Oct 11, 2010, 8:06 pm
#24
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Back in YYZ after 3 years of expat life in LHR
Programs: AC SE100K
Posts: 924
get over yourselves...who cares about these scans.
all i care about is getting through the TSA charades as fast as possible
if you are so ashamed of you bodies that you cant walk through the scan, maybe you should consider that you are doing something wrong taking care of yourself.
....and what is the fear anyway...that theres a fat sloppy TSA agent behind the screen laughing at you? ....you are really wasting your energy
all i care about is getting through the TSA charades as fast as possible
if you are so ashamed of you bodies that you cant walk through the scan, maybe you should consider that you are doing something wrong taking care of yourself.
....and what is the fear anyway...that theres a fat sloppy TSA agent behind the screen laughing at you? ....you are really wasting your energy
It has nothing to do with shame ... at 5'9", 135lb marathon runner, it sure ain't about how I look, it's about what I believe in.
Oct 11, 2010, 8:07 pm
#25
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Jacksonville, FL
Programs: DL, US Air, AA, HH Diamond
Posts: 79
get over yourselves...who cares about these scans.
all i care about is getting through the TSA charades as fast as possible
if you are so ashamed of you bodies that you cant walk through the scan, maybe you should consider that you are doing something wrong taking care of yourself.
....and what is the fear anyway...that theres a fat sloppy TSA agent behind the screen laughing at you? ....you are really wasting your energy
all i care about is getting through the TSA charades as fast as possible
if you are so ashamed of you bodies that you cant walk through the scan, maybe you should consider that you are doing something wrong taking care of yourself.
....and what is the fear anyway...that theres a fat sloppy TSA agent behind the screen laughing at you? ....you are really wasting your energy
Why don't you actually read what has been posted. The majority of us, myself included, don't rank the privacy issue as the number one reason we refuse to enter the NoS. It's about the government trying to restrict our freedom of movement, under the guise of preventing another terrorist attack.
Oct 11, 2010, 8:07 pm
#26
Original Member
Join Date: May 1998
Location: PDX
Programs: TSA Refusenik charter member
Posts: 15,978
I do.
That's certainly your prerogative to care only about your immediate self-interest. Others choose to exercise the prerogative to care about their and others' long term interests.
False choices. Neither shame nor fear drive my conscious decision to opt out.
if you are so ashamed of you bodies that you cant walk through the scan, maybe you should consider that you are doing something wrong taking care of yourself.
....and what is the fear anyway...that theres a fat sloppy TSA agent behind the screen laughing at you?
....and what is the fear anyway...that theres a fat sloppy TSA agent behind the screen laughing at you?
Last edited by essxjay; Oct 11, 2010 at 10:19 pm
Oct 11, 2010, 8:29 pm
#27
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: California. USA
Posts: 1,404
Female 56.
Never been in a one and dont plan to go into one either.
Me they have to drag with force into the machine.
And NO I am not ashammed over my body. But it is mine and nobody i dont invite and know shall see it.
Also when I talk to people here and in Sweden about this machine. Almost all of them think that there are 2 lines for the machines. One for men viewved by men. And one for women viewed by women.
And that they dont view minors.
When they here it is all mixed they cant people. But they do say that they will opt-out then.
The health hazzard they never have even thought about.
Pat-downs. Hm I am good at self defense.
Never been in a one and dont plan to go into one either.
Me they have to drag with force into the machine.
And NO I am not ashammed over my body. But it is mine and nobody i dont invite and know shall see it.
Also when I talk to people here and in Sweden about this machine. Almost all of them think that there are 2 lines for the machines. One for men viewved by men. And one for women viewed by women.
And that they dont view minors.
When they here it is all mixed they cant people. But they do say that they will opt-out then.
The health hazzard they never have even thought about.
Pat-downs. Hm I am good at self defense.
Oct 11, 2010, 8:32 pm
#28
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 4,735
get over yourselves...who cares about these scans.
all i care about is getting through the TSA charades as fast as possible
if you are so ashamed of you bodies that you cant walk through the scan, maybe you should consider that you are doing something wrong taking care of yourself.
....and what is the fear anyway...that theres a fat sloppy TSA agent behind the screen laughing at you? ....you are really wasting your energy
all i care about is getting through the TSA charades as fast as possible
if you are so ashamed of you bodies that you cant walk through the scan, maybe you should consider that you are doing something wrong taking care of yourself.
....and what is the fear anyway...that theres a fat sloppy TSA agent behind the screen laughing at you? ....you are really wasting your energy
I've already had cancer once, thank you, and more radiation than anyone should ever face. No way am I exposing myself to more radiation just to help the government's PR project, or exposing my kid to it. And anyone who trusts what the government says about the radiation exposure risk from those machines is naive to say the least.
Add one more female to the list of refusers.
